Malin Sucks! Dont use her.
As for the air feint (d,d) its 50/50. I is very good in pressure games especially after qcb+K for keeping the pressure after a blocked string or a hit since duck will land before the opponent. However I would using it after far B since the move is very VERY slow and low priority.
Quoted for truth.
CoolWater, can you give me a breakdown of Ash like u did with Eiji & Duck?
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anyway is there away to know when the time release characters are out? like a timer? and how long do you have to wait?
Dang, did they nerf Mahlin that much. What about Ramon, he seems really solid this time 'round.
^ Not really nerfed but they changed the way she was from 03 SO much. You can’t fly around and whore yo-yos anymore. You kinda have to play rushdown with her now…
Ash has a psuedo-infinite: In corner, HCF+C SC-ed into LDM Sommersault st…b Sommersault(repeat)
psuedo-infinite?
i guess i’ll write about duo lon, since he is my favorite character and all.
pros: great pressure character, rekkas are still pretty damn safe, lots of mixups, pretty good air game, fairly good low jumps, great back roll
cons: rekkas doesnt do too much damage compared to kyos, oswalds, ioris, etc., no reliable anti air, air normals has been weakened since 2k3 and because of that, he cant fight a few characters that well in the air, like gato
Duo Lon is an intense rushdown character, he still owns the ground and he can pressure you extremely well. He is great for punishing stuff that other characters have trouble punishing from a distance since his c.a hits so far and his rekkas can combo from max range c.a.
anyways on with the moves
Selfless Serpent of Submission ***** qcf+A or C. first hit of his rekka Pretty safe, covers tons of ground and can be comboed off close C, cr. A, close D, c.C
**–>Selfless Serpent of Submission x2 *qcf+px2 tends to miss when too far but you can still cancel it into the last rekka even when it doesnt hit.
—>Selfless Serpent of Submission—> rekka x3 **** qcf+px3 sadly it doesnt knock you high up into the air anymore for more juggle options. semi safe when blocked, gato can super you back. cancellable into a teleport or toe kick. not sure is it SCable
Bilious Serpent Slam *** f+B after qcf+A this move leads to another set of rekka moves. can followup into toe kick, teleport or the palm as mentioned below
–>Cleaving Mortality **** qcb+C after Bilious Serpent Slam SCable, comboable into a c.a afterwards but it tends to miss unless you did the first rekka extremely close.
Spectral Smash ** dp +K aka toe kick. Think of Omega Reds burrowing coil (c.hk) in mvc2. Doesnt launch your opponent high up in the sky anymore unlike kof2k3. Back then it was used to stuff fireballs and for keepaway, but now its harder and not really worth it since it doesnt launch anymore and there are only two strengths so its easier to avoid. SCable and OTGs.
Transmigration Stomper *** qcb+k in mid air. a dive kick. The 2nd half of his teleport kick from 2k3. great for pressuring but it gets beaten by quite a few things like some characters jabs
**Flying Hair Punt **** qcf+k ** a teleport. Duo Lon runs through you at mach speed. Think of yangs teleport in 3s. Tad slower than it was in 2k3, but still fast enough for his mixups. Doesnt go thru fireballs anymore and more vulnerable at the end yet still leagues better than yangs teleport.
Reinforced Satan Step *** hcb, f+p Like ioris command grab, nets you a free combo afterwards. A bit hard to use since its a pain in the ass to tick throw in this game.
Supers:
Secretive Wall of Wraiths *** qcb, hcf+p gained a huge speed boost since 2k3. Doesnt take forever to come out unlike in 2k3. your standard fireball super. can combo off a c.a right now
Secretive Shades of the Damned *** hcbx2+p looks like athenas shining crystal bit but more cooler since ghosts covers duo lons body. hes not invincible throughout the entire phase anymore. some deep hitting moves can go thru it and so does fireballs. nevertheless a decent anti air and great for combos since you get about 27 hits so it doesnt scale too badly. good for chipping only if its going to kill them since you are left vulnerable after it ends.
**Super Spectral Smash ***** super version of his toe kick
LDM:
Mysterious Multiple Dark Drubbler **** A C B D aka Genei Jin aka A-Groove. Holy shit, this is one of the best LDMs in the game. doesnt scale since its all little hits and can take off 80% of your life and still be able to combo afterwards
heres a flow chart of his combos i got from kao meguras kof2k3 faq. i took out the followups that doesnt work in kofxi and the ones with a question mark next to it means i’m not sure
1st input > 2nd input > 3rd input > 4th input
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qcf + P > qcf + K > --------- > --------- ?
qcf + A > f + B > qcf + K > ---------
qcf + A > f + B > f,d,df + K > supercancel
qcf + A > f + B > qcb + C > supercancel
qcf + P > qcf + P > qcf + P > qcf + K
qcf + P > qcf + P > qcf + P > f,d,df + K
qcf + P > qcf + P > qcf + P > supercancel ?
A thousand thanx to Ouroborus.
Where is the best place to get XI vids? I know of a few sights, but they usually just have a few sprinkled here and there.
Can somebody post some strats for Yuri? She’s better in KOFXI than 2003 for sure.
someone give me some kim stuff.
i’m thinking of trying him out. does he play more like kof2k3 kim or ngbc kim?
all i know so far is that his hk version of his split kicks arent safe on block, that he has a new animation and i think his triple up kicks are missing.
does c.lk, c.lk into qcb+k x3 work or not?
how about jump in, close hp, f+lk into combo of choice, does that work too?
i havent tried out nbc kim but 11 kim pretty much feels like 03kim but safer.
i know c.Ax2in to qcbP still combos. speaking of qcb+P they change the LP ver. instead of being an overhead its a sweep and HP is the same but it seem it whiff if your not super close but maybe my timing was off?
his B ver of the flaskkick lost some invincable frames but every lightAA has. anyway if there in the air and they get hit by the Bverflashkick and its a counter hit,it should air reset them and if kim is the leader you get a free LDM.
I just did, damnit. Scroll up =P
Since I remember you saying that you played at AI, there’s a guy there that plays Yuri and was pretty good.
He kept pressuring with short hop C.
Did her awesome corner combo, something like…
short hop C - sc. C - df+D xx qcb+C, dp+C, qcfhcb+K.
His Yuri’s BnB was jumping C - sc.C - df+D, qcfhcb+K. I tend to use c.B - c.A - df+B, qcfhcb+K instead, because you aren’t as time-disadvantaged if df+B is blocked and you get much better cancelling options if you need to. Plus, df+B is awesome for tag combos.
I couldn’t do c.B - c.A - dp, maybe because I’m retarded but I heard it connects.
f+A kiiinda works as an overhead but it’s slow as hell.
Never quite found a use for her dp super.
Anybody got strats for Ozwald and Shen Woo? Oh and Kim too do keep those coming. They supposedly got this game at the Swap Shop in Sunrise (if anybody here lives in S.Florida) and i need to get some strats on these chars.
i tried out shen woo and he is a beast. they beefed him up since 2k3
i dont feel like writing out a whole move list and shit right now so i’m just gonna list what i do and what seems good
-jump d, close c, f+b into dash punch is his b&b. takes off a good 30 - 40% and you can super cancel/dream cancel afterwards
-low jump d is really good, crouching d got a speed boost since the last game
-from what i heard, far c has auto guard and jump c is also really good and crosses up
-lp gigaton (qcfx2+p) blows thru low attacks, hp gigaton blows thru high attacks and fireballs
-qcb+c reflects fbs, qcb+a into qcf+a (bitch slaps) is and overhead and it is NOT safe if blocked.
-hcb, f+ c is a command grab thats SCable afterwards.
there are two ways to play him.
1.rush them down with low jump d’s and c’s into b&b and mix that up with his sweep, command grab, and his bitch slap.
- harass your opponent from a distance like vega. jump back d, dash punch and dash punch feints and gigaton them as anti air.
try to incorporate both if you want to win.
Someone plz point me in the direction of Vanessa ownage
ALso when is the release date for the ps2 for KOF XI?
DAMN! def. does sound like he’s a beast wit all those improvements. :tup:
Can somebody teach me how to use Kula? It’s like everybody knows how to use her except me.
Kula is like her 02 self to me. Minus the La Chocola Super. Other than that, she’s typical Kula…
^ Yeah…I remember CoolWater saying that you can use her in your own way and still cheese out wins with her. Kinda like Chun in 3S. I’ll just use her a lil bit more…she’s less complicated than Gato for sure.