Lol now people here be understanding the frustration.
Ken hk hurricane whiffs after mk~hk taget combo. You can link c.lp, s.lp, s.lk xx special. Using mk hurricane is best for set ups and ex hurricane for damage. I lost only 1 game with ken not even doing anything crazy. I just played it like Alpha 2 with no customs and pretty much wrecked most people. Itâs like they dont know what to do without focus when they canât jump. Lol. This was my first time playing him too.
Overall my matches sucked though. Most my shit was in lag to the US or Canada. I layed I think one local in Korea and one in Japan. Still fun, but just a pain losing to randomness with rollback. If you know how to play Ken in older games I think you will do fine with him.
c.lp s.lp s.lk worked in the last beta. c.lk s.lp s.lk didnât. I just use c.lk c.lp though.
Was 3F lk.tatsu still a thing in this build?
Yes
Got ya
Lucky for me I didnât play him til now, so (to me) it doesnât seem that bad since I didnât experience everything he lost. Ups and downs of beta testing.
Does MP SRK->FP SRK still combo? If so it isnât a massive nerf, but seriously capcom what is your deal against fun? At this point though I sincerely am starting to think his v-trigger should be 2 bars.
Fireball nerf is really bad though to be honest.
Also not having his chains work because cr. LK has too much pushback is just stupid. Anyone with basic fundamentals could beat the average person online with any character. Winning online at this point really isnât a good judge of character power.
I couldnt get it to work 
I wonder if any of the fireball data changed. -10 is crappy but if the start up is better it would be a better trade off. Also this doesnt mean itâs absolute shit, shotos fireballs were still decent in CvS2 and had pretty shit looking data.
I saw random tatsu, I would agree with you if he did them in range of the first hit which is three frames, but he didnât. They were done at a very punishable along with other things like sweeping and pressuring after unsafe moves. Itâs just no one is used to punishing stuff yet. I think I missed at least 3 punishes myself on random ass tatsus from a Ryu lol.
You can now only do (in VT) lp.srk, hp.srk in the corner after a target combo.
Games gonna drop, people will have time to figure out their most efficient way to play Ken, some will main him some will drop him simple as that. He is still perfectly fine as well if you ask me.
Thatâs just my 2 cents. Iâll see you dudes on the 16th.
Iâve stated over 3 months ago lol. Ken is supposedly flashy but they removed all. Ken is the new Nash in terms of buffs and nerfs
it feels like the basis of this conversation is who is better, Ryu or Ken?
if one risks a punishable move, but lands it, it is no longer random.
same as how one may say âthey do random shoryus all the timeâ, but you get hit by it
on your perspective it seems random, but on the person landing it, it isnât!
Did they give him back the ability to late cancel c.mp into super and link c.mp into super?
Ryu, at least from first glance. Ryu has some pretty sick stuff between his V-Trigger, buttons and damage potential. St.mk is great, his cr.mp is great, cr.mk is okay but theyâve all been nerfed, his damage hasnât received any giant nerfs.
I feel like Ryu is stronger atm, Ken feels too gimped out of the box when you give us beta 2 Ken and then turn it into this.
Ryuâs s.lk is so good. That normal alone makes the character fun.
Donât we have the same st.lk? only difference is Ryu might be able to get more from it
I think Ryuâs has more range since Kenâs had his nerfed and Ryuâs combos into normal fireball on hit whereas Ken has to do EX fireball to fish. I feel got a bunch of nerfs because his V-trigger was really good, then they nerfed his v-trigger ⌠so now why is he so gimped?
Yeah if he canât shit damage in his VT off every hit into double shoryu it really shouldnât be 3 bars. At this point it is just an unsafe FADC he gets once a round. Make two bars and I can deal with the nerfs. Ken is honestly one of the worst characters in the game by a pretty decent margin at this point.
Yeah I also like Kenâs s.lk but the combo into fireball with Ryu makes it much scarier, especially because its such an easy hitconfirm into super.
Iâm just gonna wait till the release before I judge Ken too much. And if he stays the same I will just sub him. Plenty of other fish in the character select sea.
Nope on the link. You can cancel c.mp late, but itâs still much easier with c.mk. @caliagent#3