Ken General Thread: Go with the Flow

Bummer…
Are you sure though? He can do that even in Ultra, why remove medium to medium button links?

Why does Ken sound so fucking shitty when he says Hadoken.

Probably due to emphasis on his target combo now. In 3S he relied solely on that or one hit confirms.

^^ this is what I’ve noticed. Low forward is still a good tool but his tc is probably the best it’s ever been

Yeah but now his tc leads to a knockdown unlike in 3rd strike. It would be nice to have some alternative links that keep the opponent on the ground. Damage wise, cr mp to cr mk does less damage than cr mp to tc so i don’t see a reason not to have this option. As long as it doesn’t increase Ken’s damage potential it’s just another link that adds variety to his combo options. Doing the same thing over and over again can become boring.

In the newer version he can probably only link his light and ex srk after a light attack since they have reduced the hitstun of light attacks in order to remove the links to medium normals. This means that they are less than +5 or +4 on hit, probably +3 so those srk links will be tight as well.

If he means cancelling that’s still possible.

So is cr.mp Ken’s main hit confirm then?

Which of Ken’s lights is special cancelable?

So the threat of being thrown the only good use of his run? Every time I see combo play Ken he usually runs for a throw. No real rushdown pressure at all.

Seems that way. You just make people afraid of throw. I imagine ideally the gameplan is you finally get them to be afraid of getting thrown and try to tech throw and then counter hit them with a button. Which either people just haven’t put that into a meta yet, or there’s some other issue that keeps counter hitting their throw tech with buttons being the next option.

Are you serious? Lol if they aren’t that’s really sad and I’m terribly sorry.

OK watching the character reveal trailer and maximillian matches at least s.lk, s.lp and cr.lp are special cancellable. I’d expect cr.lk to be as well since it has always been and is for ryu in SFV. I don’t think they’d nerf this but anything is possible lol.

That was an honest question, i don’t really know if he has any special cancelable lights. The lights to specials on the trailers seemed like links though, going by the animations. What worries me is that i no longer see anyone doing lights to srk anymore in Ken videos.

Even if it is like that i am not to bothered though, cr mp to back mp covers the same ranges and it’s pretty safe.

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cr lp to lk tatsu seems to work still, so maybe it’s special cancelable.

ken can do tatsu into dragon punch in this new build

I saw momochi doing it in his Ken examination video too I think

I made the same mistake assumption initially. It was the ex version of srk that doesn’t need juggle points to connect. Apparently the lk tatsu now adds juggle points which is good news.

^yeah vid confirms lights are still cancelable for anyone concerned. I think Run pressure might be better to use with lights instead of always going for a throw. And since Ken isn’t in the beta, no one really knows how to set it up yet. I imagine counter hit with a heavy and then running into c.lk -> st.lp > DP would be a nice setup to continue pressure with. Also if Capcom makes step kick not completely ass, then people will have to guess between blocking or throw teching and not just mashing jab anytime they see Ken run.

Now that Rashid also has a run, I’m even less into Ken’s V-skill. I’ve never felt like it suited him in terms of his fighting style/training/roots, and it just seems like it’s going to be hard to balance and keep it from being gimmicky/useless or OP. I’d rather just an entirely new v-skill tbh.

He has a run?

Roll would have been better.