Ken General Thread: Go with the Flow

Yeah, i know that you can follow an lk tatsu with a srk, i was asking if it’s still possible after a tc. Theoretically it should still be doable since the tc seems to add juggle points, meaning an lk tatsu should connect, but maybe the spacing or the trajectory of the juggled opponent after a tatsu makes connecting an ex srk impossible. In that case we will have to use cr mp -> cr mk instead of tc which does less damage and most importantly doesn’t look as good.

I know i sound like Vega but i want my flashy combos. Can you blame me?

^Well you can still do c.mp -> TC -> DP or Tatsu ender in this build, looks somewhat pretty.

Also saw a nice combo off a jump in J.HK -> c.mk -> FB -> V-trigger -> TC -> FB -> Super

I’m wondering what use each tatsu will have. Right now LK seems to be the combo tatsu; do MK and HK give more corner carry or positioning maybe?

Combofiend playing ken. Good shit here, he was using raw runs into cr.mk for more range, s.lp into TC is still possible, Ex tatsu eats up a lot of space he can send you to the corner easily and if only 1hit of l.tatsu connects ken can still do ex.srk so TC l.tatsu ex.srk is still possible.

Sick combo at 3:24

Nice video, thx! About tc to lk tatsu, the one time Combofiend attempted it the tatsu didn’t connect, maybe he did it too late. What he did do was st hp -> st mp -> lk tatsu -> ex srk for a lot of pain. This probably only works in the corner, mid screen a st hp should be followed by v skill -> cr jab instead.

Those tc to hk tatsu combos look like they hurt though, close to 30% damage meterless. Not bad at all.

Whelp so Ken can link out of lights. Can’t believe anything these days.

Edit: nvm, wrong info.

Where and what was it?

CC s.hk run s.hp cr.mp ex.hadoken V.trigger s.hp run s.lp TC l.srk h.srk.

At 1:04 he does s.lp into TC.

OMG Ken confirmed top tier! All Ryu players should do a 3rd Strike Daigo and pick Ken with the white outfit, pretending it’s Ryu.

But wait. Was this jab actually a CH? Oh noes, Ken doesn’t actually have light to medium links, he is doomed. Oh well, at least his tatsu crosses up.

Shit you’re right. I’ve edited the post.

As was said. Counter-hit. Seemed fast to be a link to me even so but I am not accustomed to linking jabs and shorts.

It doesn’t link, Combofiend attempts it two more times and it gets blocked. He is probably using it as a frame trap, the CH combo was just a happy accident.

Ken can still srk off lights right? Should still be possible to get a knockdown off a run. Also, his mediums don’t cancel into sweep like Ryu? Never see any kens doing it.

Unless his mediums have ridiculously low hit stun he should be able to do it. His sweep has visibly less start up than Ryu’s. I am almost certain that i’ve seen someone do it in a video but i can’t remember which one it is, sorry.

Still, with the way knockdown works in this game i don’t see any real advantage in ending with a sweep instead of a srk or a hk tatsu. You get a soft knockdown in all cases but the sweep does less damage and has less corner carry than Ken’s other options.

Good matches.

Kens cr.mp links into sweep on counter hit I think you must net a CH on cr.mp to link cr.mk and another cr.mp

I am pretty sure you can link a cr mk after a cr mp normally, i’ve seen it a few times in Ken SF5 videos. Judging by the range of said cr mk though, Ken will probably have to be really close to the opponent when landing the cr mp to avoid cr mk whiffing.

Yeah a common complaint with Ryu is how short ranged his c.MK so I can imagine Ken’s might even be shorter, tougher to link.

Ken can only do cr.mp cr.mk on counter hit.