He didn’t exactly survive, he died for sure. He was just resurrected by G Corporation.
I’ll be darned…I guess someone DID get it after all!
“Stolen!” (in NBA Jam announcers voice) I’m adding these to the list…
And, BTW, I said Geese’s PLAYABLE debut was in FF Special. I know his overall debut was FF1, but he wasn’t playable…at least not in the arcade version I have (FF:Battle Archives Vol 1…pick it up, people). He was playable in the Genesis and SNES versions, which came out the same year as FF Special.
geese has been in Svc chaos, capcom vs snk 1 y 2, maximum impact!!!:looney:
ninja edit: oh also snk vs capcom match of the millenium i believe for neogeo pocket. i might be wrong though. maybe in kof R1 or R2
Nah man, I didn’t get it. That’s why I laughed.
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Kaz always speaks Japanese in every Tekken game that has had voice overs. So no.
I was referring to the comic
They surely refer to the same Japanese myth.
For example the child thrown into a cliff by his father to measure his strenght that came back looking for revenge is a typical japanese tale.
It’s almost creepy:
Step 1: Both characters are the final boss of a fighting game. Both characters were knocked off a ledge to their supposed deaths
(Geese FF1) ------ (Kazuya T2)
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Step 2: Because of their supposed deaths, both characters were absent in the sequel
(Geese absent from FF2) ----- (Kazuya absent from T3)
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Step 3: Both characters made their playable, non-boss returns in a NON-CANON dream match sequel. These sequels are made up of characters from the previous two games of the series, however both games are missing THREE characters.
(Geese -> Fatal Fury Special contains every character from FF1 and 2 except for THREE: Hwa Jai, Richard Meyer, and Michael Max) ----- (Kazuya -> Tekken Tag contains every character from T2 and T3 except THREE: Marshall Law, Original King, Original Kuma)
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Step 4: Both characters make their playable, CANON returns in the next two sequels.
(Geese -> FF3, FF: Real Bout) ----- (Kazuya -> T4, T5)
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Step 5: Both characters appear in a NON-CANON upgrades to the previous game
in which characters from previous sequels make grand returns
(Geese -> FF Real Bout Special features the return of Krauser, Blood, Tung, etc.) ----- (Kazuya -> T5: Dark Resurrection features the return of Armor King and Eddy as a stand alone character)
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Step 6: Both characters appear in a CANON sequel containing Sammo Hung and Jackie Chan wannabes
(Geese -> FF: Real Bout 2 featuring Cheng Shin Zan and Hon Fu) ----- (Kazuya -> Tekken 6 featuring Bob and Lei Wulong)
RB2 wasn’t canon though, the FF canon is -
FF1 >> FF2 >> FF3 >> RB1 >> MOTW
RB2 was a upgrade of RBS, essentially making it another dream-match type game, although Geese appeared in a toned down form and not his “Nightmare” form has he did in RBS/DM before it, he’s still canonically dead/MIA.
I always thought Geese and Heihachi had more in common though, namely with those big parachute pants, but I can see Geese and Kazuya having plenty in common as well for the reasons you stated above.
actually if you hadnt noticed tekken is like a 3D kof, and virtua fighter is a 3D street fighter
tekken and kof have many main character candidates. while vf and sf both have ryu and ken (akira and jacky)
Actually, I’d say the reverse…Tekken and KOF have only two or three mains, while SF and VF have several mains.
Tekken has been all about the Mishimas since the beginning. Look at Law and Paul nowadays for proof of that. They’ve been reduced to scrubs. (Heck, Kazuya and Paul used to be Ryu and Ken…but then they quickly developed into Geese and The Duck King, respectively) KOF has mostly been about Kyo…even when he was “phased out” for a while with K’ and Ash, he was always involved somehow.
But, Ryu, in spite of his status as SF’s icon, is really only the main guy in SF1…after that there’s important stuff going on all over the canon: Bison, Dolls, Chun-Li, Rose, Charlie, Guile, Alex, Gill. Ryu is almost a secondary character after SF1.
In VF, different people are winning the tournament all the time for different reasons. I think Akira didn’t even win VF1. So, ironically, the game with the most multi-dimensional storyline is a game criticized for its lack of storyline…
However, your comparison of SF to VF does ring true in some regards…Akira -> Ryu…Jacky -> Ken…Pai -> Chun-Li…Jefferey -> Zangief. No doubt, that was intentional on Sega’s part…
And, your comparison of KOF to Tekken definitely rings true…that’s basically the thesis of this entire thread.
Almost correct. Wild Ambition replaces FF1 in the canon. Instead of falling from a building, Terry beat the everloving fuck out of Geese at the end of the tournament. Got messed up so bad that everyone thought he was dead, which still explains why he didn’t show up in FF2.
Although, Geese falling from a building is definitely the cooler ending. Just not twice (at least to me).
What I don’t get about that is the roster. FF1 and FF:WA have totally different rosters. So which was correct? Was Yamazaki in the first KOF tourney, then? And, Mr. Karate? And, Mai? Because, if Wild Ambition replaced FF1, the answer would be yes…and that’s weird…
And, I could have sworn that Real Bout Special was non-canon and Real Bout 2 was canon…(titles with “Special” in FF land usually signify non-canon dream match don’t they?)
In VF, the character who wins the tournament is selected by which character was used by the champion of the last big tournament for the previous game. So, Lau won VF1, Akira won VF2, Kage won VF3, and Kage/Shun tied in VF4, due one character winning SBO and the other winning the big Sega tournament, if I recall correctly.
Also, Tekken really does only care about the Mishimas. Paul used to be a true rival for Kazuya and a star of the series, but as time went on he became less and less important, and the same goes for every other supporting character in the cast. Essentially, all that matters now is the Mishimas, and the only way another character has any importance whatsoever is if their storyline in some way relates to the Mishimas.
…that’s a good question.
checks Wikipedia
…wait what? I think I just missed something, because I have no idea what was just said. Perhaps FFWA only changes Geese falling off a building and replaces it with BUSTA BEATDOWN! Or perhaps both happened, but that seems rather unlikely to me for some reason.
Also from Wikipedia:
Well, at least there’s a clear answer to one of your questions.
YEAH, what about M. Sagat? Can’t forget about that guy, man.
NO! KAZUYA IS A HERO! MAIN CHARACTER OF TEKKEN 1!!!:annoy:
Just to reinforce that scar bit
http://www.sabertoothgames.com/ufs/images/snk/promos/nightmaregeese_large.jpg
nightmare geese promo card <_<
Very interesting.