Karin Match Up Thread: Oops! Sorry! Can I still play?

Could you upload a match? Maybe we can help.
You can’t just use s. Mk the entire match, it’s just to stop her doing shit.

Thanks, I don’t think it’s that problematic of a matchup, I was just voicing my opinion to say it’s not free for Karin.

I think Karin’s hardest matchup is chun…nash, dhalsim. A good Ryu is also hard but I think that’s more of the player than the character.

I will lose to Chun’s who don’t even use instant air legs.

ryu is by far harder then nash or dhalsim. That character is just retardedly strong in this game atm.

Dhalsim you only really need to capitalize on 1 knockdown, you can keep chasing his tp’s with your mobility and corner him. Give him hell then

Nash is nash, there isn’t anyone that exactly beats him, but he has no reversal. You have to pressure those few knockdowns you can get again.

You can option select his v-reversal if u got pressure on him with s.mp st.jab xx seppo st.mp

If he v-reversals your first s.mp the st.jab wont come out and you will seppo auto correct chase him, and if your perfect with this you will cross him up on his own v-reversal.

Yeah, Nash is a real pain. Most of the ones I play online just do j.MK, c.MP, s.MP, and then another j.MK or LK Moonsault and repeats. Irritating to block, can’t punish or even counter, and trying to counter it mid-air doesn’t work either.

I’ve had success playing like a maniac against Nash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbCml7K7bag

You can interrupt cr.mp st.mp with cr jab it has 4 frame gap. Since cr. Lp will coutnerhit you can combo on cr.mp. once you start doing that he will need to change the string.

That’s good info. Would st jab be better since it’s a frame quicker? Not sure if the reach is smaller than cr jab.

st jab is 4f, it is a frame slower than cr jab, and it will get counterhit by the 4 frame gap

Whoops. You’re right. Not sure why I had it mixed up. My bad!

Okay, lots of questions… My main problem is that I lack fundamentals, so moving up in ranked is hard.

Anyway, against Bison… how do you punish his knees? I feel like no matter how many of them he spams, he always seems to be in his favor. I try to go with cr.mk into tenkos, but it doesn’t always work.

In a way, this also applies to** Cammy**. I faced some cammy’s that knee you and do that “Lock on!” attack from above. Seems like jabs come out too slow for me to interrumpt their assault, so I am kind of stuck taking in little by little.

On the other hand, there’s ** Zangief**. I know he’s not considered a strong character, but he seems like the ultimate noob killer and always stomps me. Like, for instance- If he elbows me, that’s a free 360. The answer seems to be Karin’s godlike standing MK, but it seems like it doesn’t always win over some of his moves. There’s this one scenario where we fall simultaneously on the ground and I always get stuffed by a 360. Grapplers baffle me.

Any kind of tips are appreciated.
Cheers.

I struggle against Bison too, and he’s in my opinion one of Karin’s worst match-ups. Only mk and lk scissors are punishable with cr. jab into JFT and even then sometimes it will whiff because of push back. I will say look up mago2dgod on CFN - there’s a huge set uploaded at the moment against two top Bison players. It’s gold for Karin players.

Okay, there’s something I really don’t understand.

How come when me and my opponent land next to each other, my jabs lose to medium punches? Shouldn’t there be frame advantage for me?

Not sure if this is what you’re talking about, but SFV has something called normal priority where stronger priority attacks beat lower ones if they come out in the same frame. That means if you did c.LP and your opponent did c.MP at the same frame, the c.MP would win out no matter what.

Yes, this matchup is a weird one. Gief is bad, but the way Karin plays sort of works in his favor. I actually got stomped pretty hard by a Gief at a tourney yesterday. You really just have to play this one patient as hell. Keep him out with s.MK (if spaced properly, it kills almost all his moves outside of s.HP) and just try your best not to let him get in because once he’s in, Karin has a hard time fending him off with committing to EX Ressenha. You want to bait him into doing s.HP a lot so you can get easy c.HK punishes. His V-Skill is irritating because you can’t really use s.HK since he’ll dash in during the recovery. If you can knock him off his feet, just pressure the living hell out of him since he doesn’t really have a reversal other than his CA. DO NOT jump for any reason unless you are 100% it’s going to work, and even then do so with caution. 360 has 5 frame start up, so anything faster than that should beat it. Patience really is a virtue in this matchup.

Is the guy who started the thread ever gonna update the rest of the characters and also how every other character page has a single thread for each match up yet Karins are all stuck in one all over the place.

How to deal with Zangief ?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=74wX7OsTrsA

How to deal with Vega ?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=UGaQjOnw1yw

How to deal with R. Mika ?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1GUvx4oxZx4

How to deal with ryu ?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=r51UyBVq1II

How to deal with Nash ?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=FGme6V34cZg

How to deal with Bison ?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=44yr5XhMjoU