Finally put everything in one video.
I seem to struggle to hit the ex tenko after lk kicks on certain characters more than others e.g laura i can hit 9/10 times, where as bison its like 1/10 also ive never been able to hit the shoulder juggle after! not even once, is this all just do to with the timing of the punch input after the slide? so frustrating sometimes
also do the all the cast have different falling speeds or something? just confused why I hit the ex tenko consistently on some and not so much on others
It seems not enough ppl are taking advantage of the situation after blocked orochi. your “turn” isn’t over if your orochi is blocked!
After blocked orochi u have several options:
-block if u think they will invincible reversal and cc punish
-cr.lp for a 5f gap frame trap
>on counter hit: links into smp> tenko…etc
>on block: smp for a 3f gap frame trap into orochi again to reset the situation or sappo grab
-EX ressenha if they mash a >5f normal
>obviously risky. Its generally used to scare 3f/4f light mashers and make them think twice
>odds are generally in ur favor tho. Ppl think its they’re turn after blocked orochi most of the time.
-dash up grab if they block all day
This has won me so many games by switching the momentum!
The problem with pressing c.lp after a blocked orochi is if they hit a light or a 5f medium you’ll lose. Do you mean on hit s.mp makes 3f gap?
No, thats wut i meant when i said hitting crlp is a 5f frame trap (ie. beat any normal >5f, lose to anything less) . Surprisingly i get counterhit crlp alot into big dmg with this frame trap.
i mean after crlp is pressed and is blocked u can hit smp for another 3f frame trap.
That is also why i put in the option of ex ressenha to shut down lights or mediums, obviously u wouldn’t do that 100% of the time but it will scare players that actually adapt into blocking sometimes.
Its not perfect but its a situation that can be taken advantage of.
Anyone tried any meaty ressenha set up? I know you can combo from it. I was wondering if can do tenko vskill combo then ressenha mp and make the last hit safe? I was testing it on back rolls.
If you want to get anything off of the v-skill combo… which I’m assuming is qcf p, p, p. You actually don’t get that much frame advantage you get a lot more from doing the slide (crouching kick).
If you’re replying to me I’m talking about v skill no v trigger combo.
That’s like the same move… you get pretty ass frame advantage from it which is why its sub optimal for setups.
well sometimes lk mujin second kick whiffs from max range thats why i asked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3jZLwEC2VU
A small proof of concept. The dummy is set to reversal dp after block to show it’s a true block string. They can always v-reversal out if they have the meter, so do it when they are in v-trigger or don’t have meter to v-reversal. In case you didn’t know, white life doesn’t count towards your actual life when getting chip ko’d or towards timeout health total to decide who wins, so keep that in mind.
If you do tenko > vskill > mk dash > crmp it’s meaty enough to link into sthp. Video: https://u.pomf.is/eqhfsg.mp4
You can also slight walk > charged vskill for meaty vskill that’s +2 on block. Video: https://u.pomf.is/bpejfa.mp4 (Cpu set to do crlp on block)
Is it worth sacrificing oki and damage for slightly more v-meter? I don’t know.
You can also opt to end for perfect orochi ender instead, does more damage and stun and sets up some different setups.
All this against quickrise of course. Backroll is too good.
If backroll derps these things up, then they’re probably best used in the corner when you don’t have meter (because I can’t see why anyone would not do JFT - LK Mujin - EX Ressenha when they can), since that still leaves you in their face to fuck them up.
PS: you’re playing Karin now? Sweet. Imma steal all your setups the next time I see you at KCC =3
Double Tenka 
Was the dummy set to block after the drop kick? Wondering how negative she is
Yeah, recorded CPU to do dropkick then walk backwards, would’ve blocked if it could. It’s pretty negative on whiff.
While this works it’s still easier at that distance to just neutral-jump it on reaction into a strong punish.
Yea I can . Any ressenha set ups after?
Scenario discussed is when you get that awkward range where you hit JFT but you only get 0~1 hit of lk mujin and can’t finish any combos. Also you’re probably talking about ex tenko? Can’t do mujin into ex ressen midscreen.
Noo my tech man, give it back!
Does Karin really have a block infinite of some sort or did I hear wrong?
She has the ability to put on a lot of pressure in VT, but it is in no way an “infinite”