Kaimana RGB LED Board thread, RGB animations and more! SRK Tech Talk 2013 Product of the Year!

[JRDIBBS]

Anyone know exactly, kamana mini + razer atrox 360 + brook converter xbox >ps4 work on ps4? Tks all

The Kaimana does not affect your chain at all so yeah it will work. Unless you somehow manage to put it between the adapter and the console lol

[Kuniku]

I have one also but I tighten it until its snug and a bit more, and it stays on pretty well, then again I use it lightly so milage may vary on these. Hot glue may be a solution as it’s easily removable.

I think the balltop hits the shaft and doesnt allow you to go any further is this true in your case?

I’ll check mine out, I know if I tighten it all the way, and then give it a bit of an extra twist it just starts to shred the plastic thread, might have to invest in a hot glue gun from the sounds of it though. Unless there is a large gauge metal threaded hollow ball top out there - would seem odd that the “standard” hollow shaft is a large gauge and sanwa/semitsu don’t make a balltop for it =/

[nhan199x]

Razer atrox xbox360 pcb is not common ground pcb, so it can work with kaimana mini pcb ?

[Dubon]

Razer atrox xbox360 pcb is not common ground pcb, so it can work with kaimana mini pcb ?

It is common ground

[JRDIBBS]

Razer atrox xbox360 pcb is not common ground pcb, so it can work with kaimana mini pcb ?

From what you show it looks like all the button grounds are consolidated in a single strip so it is common ground. What you may be referring to is that all the button grounds connect individually to the board. That’s solved by building a daisy chain gnd wire and replacing the individual ones, insert the kaimana between the buttons and the pcb and run a single gnd wire from the kaimana to the pcb along with all the inputs.

EDIT: I can build one for you and ship it after the holiday craze. PM me if interested.

[Dubon]

Really all he needs is some jumper wires and learn how to read diagrams.

[nhan199x]

I have a kaimana mini kit ( don’t have breakout board), razer atrox xbox360 and some jumper like that https://www.flickr.com/photos/137132110@N06/31680305501/in/dateposted-public/
Vicko told me connect the inputs on the atrox pcb to the matching inputs on the kaimana pcb
But i don’t known how to connect 2 vcc and 3 GND ? where Where is it in the atrox PCB, is that?
imgur.com/a/Cwpxg

[JRDIBBS]

I have a kaimana mini kit ( don’t have breakout board), razer atrox xbox360 and some jumper like that https://www.flickr.com/photos/137132110@N06/31680305501/in/dateposted-public/
Vicko told me connect the inputs on the atrox pcb to the matching inputs on the kaimana pcb
But i don’t known how to connect 2 vcc and 3 GND ? where Where is it in the atrox PCB, is that?
imgur.com/a/Cwpxg

So I will give you the basics on understanding what you need to do:

1- You only need to connect 1VCC and 1GND from the PCB to the Kaimana, this will provide power to the board.
2- From the Inputs you will bring 1 signal wire of each and connect it to the corresponding one in the Kaimana.
3- There are 3 grounds from the inputs to the Kaimana, one that you can daisy chain in the 8 main buttons, another daisy chained in the start/select/home buttons and another one in the joystick. Those have corresponding spots in the kaimana

This should get you working.

[Dubon]

I have a kaimana mini kit ( don’t have breakout board), razer atrox xbox360 and some jumper like that https://www.flickr.com/photos/137132110@N06/31680305501/in/dateposted-public/
Vicko told me connect the inputs on the atrox pcb to the matching inputs on the kaimana pcb
But i don’t known how to connect 2 vcc and 3 GND ? where Where is it in the atrox PCB, is that?
imgur.com/a/Cwpxg

So I will give you the basics on understanding what you need to do:

1- You only need to connect 1VCC and 1GND from the PCB to the Kaimana, this will provide power to the board.
2- From the Inputs you will bring 1 signal wire of each and connect it to the corresponding one in the Kaimana.
3- There are 3 grounds from the inputs to the Kaimana, one that you can daisy chain in the 8 main buttons, another daisy chained in the start/select/home buttons and another one in the joystick. Those have corresponding spots in the kaimana

This should get you working.

I’m curious, maybe you overlooked this or maybe im missing something, but why does he need to daisychain his buttons when the atrox pcb has duplicate headers for all inputs/gnd?

[Darksakul]

I have a kaimana mini kit ( don’t have breakout board), razer atrox xbox360 and some jumper like that https://www.flickr.com/photos/137132110@N06/31680305501/in/dateposted-public/
Vicko told me connect the inputs on the atrox pcb to the matching inputs on the kaimana pcb
But i don’t known how to connect 2 vcc and 3 GND ? where Where is it in the atrox PCB, is that?
imgur.com/a/Cwpxg

So I will give you the basics on understanding what you need to do:

1- You only need to connect 1VCC and 1GND from the PCB to the Kaimana, this will provide power to the board.
2- From the Inputs you will bring 1 signal wire of each and connect it to the corresponding one in the Kaimana.
3- There are 3 grounds from the inputs to the Kaimana, one that you can daisy chain in the 8 main buttons, another daisy chained in the start/select/home buttons and another one in the joystick. Those have corresponding spots in the kaimana

This should get you working.

I’m curious, maybe you overlooked this or maybe im missing something, but why does he need to daisychain his buttons when the atrox pcb has duplicate headers for all inputs/gnd?

You don’t need to daisy chain, but having a daisy chain makes the wiring job simpler and cleaner. Less wire used.

[JRDIBBS]

I’m curious, maybe you overlooked this or maybe im missing something, but why does he need to daisychain his buttons when the atrox pcb has duplicate headers for all inputs/gnd?

I was misinformed on how the board was set up. Indeed there is a full free header on the atrox so no daisy chain is required, you would only need to bring one gnd wire from the free header to the Kaimana along with all the signals.

You don’t need to daisy chain, but having a daisy chain makes the wiring job simpler and cleaner. Less wire used.

This is always my aim but I also needed to research the board a bit more.

[hyp36rmax]

Totally looking forward to installing the mini led version to my Brooks UFB. How would you set it to do an RGB wave attract mode when idling for 30 seconds?

[JRDIBBS]

Totally looking forward to installing the mini led version to my Brooks UFB. How would you set it to do an RGB wave attract mode when idling for 30 seconds?

That is the default behaviour, if you are interested in changing the timeout go into the kaimana_custom.h file using notepad and change the number in this line to the number of seconds you want it to idle for:

#define  IDLE_TIMEOUT_SECONDS       30 

[hyp36rmax]

Totally looking forward to installing the mini led version to my Brooks UFB. How would you set it to do an RGB wave attract mode when idling for 30 seconds?

That is the default behaviour, if you are interested in changing the timeout go into the kaimana_custom.h file using notepad and change the number in this line to the number of seconds you want it to idle for:

#define  IDLE_TIMEOUT_SECONDS       30 

Awesome thanks! Package just arrived today. Just waiting on some clear buttons. I’ll test it tonight

[hyp36rmax]

Getting this error when trying to upload the file to the Kaimana LED Mini:

http://i.imgur.com/QY7aHnN.jpg

Arduino: 1.8.0 (Windows 10), Board: “Arduino Leonardo”

In file included from D:@Downloads\panzer2kaimana\panzer2kaimana.ino:33:0:

kaimana.h:152: error: ‘prog_uint8_t’ does not name a type

const prog_uint8_t sinusoid[257] PROGMEM = {

   ^

kaimana.h:176: error: ‘prog_uint8_t’ does not name a type

const prog_uint8_t colorCycleData[] PROGMEM = {

   ^

exit status 1
’prog_uint8_t’ does not name a type

Found the awnser in an earlier post:

Hi, last time I posted the list of stuff I needed to put LEDs on my arcade stick. I’ve been kinda busy but with the help of a couple friends we tackled the project and now, almost done, we are stuck.

When I try to upload the stuff (code I suppose) from the Arduino 1.6.5 to the board it fails.
The error is “avrdude: butterfly_recv(): programmer is not responding”

First download the latest Arduino IDE (1.6.12 as of this comment) Here with the Kaimana unplugged.

Try uploading the base code and report results.

I tried with the version you said and still failed but with this error:

"Arduino:1.6.12 (Windows 10), Tarjeta:“Arduino Leonardo”

kaimana.h:152: error: ‘prog_uint8_t’ does not name a type

const prog_uint8_t sinusoid[257] PROGMEM = {

   ^

kaimana.h:176: error: ‘prog_uint8_t’ does not name a type

const prog_uint8_t colorCycleData[] PROGMEM = {

   ^

exit status 1
’prog_uint8_t’ does not name a type

I tried without the board plugged and it failed at verifying and I even plugged it in and tried to upload it and the same error appears.

Thanks for the quick response

Awesome! Now I fixed this on my fork of the code let me get home and I’ll give you the correct declaration. @armi0024 we need to bring this update to the main branch.

Ok so we did nothing wrong, right? I mean, we just need to download the fixed one and should work, right? We’re really pumped up right now, knowing that we kinda worked thru this and we’re almost there

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Nope you’re not doing anything wrong. This is becuase the datatype is deprecated in the newer Arduino builds. In the Kaimana_custom.h file change both prog_uint8_t to uint8_t, they are at the bottom of the file.***

[hyp36rmax]

Got it all wired up and uploaded my profile to the mini-led. Doesn’t seem to be working. Have it connected directly to the 20-pin of my Brooks UFB. Am i missing something? What does the LED’s on the mini mean? Mine has a red led (that usually means something bad…) It appears I can upload the profile since the amber and the final green light will blink when it completes the upload.

Can I test this without mounting onto my buttons?

When uploading the profile do i have to have both the stick usb and the mini USB connected? I noticed i couldn’t update without having that mini usb connected, otherwise it wouldn’t show up under “Tools” -> “Port Com 3 (Arduino Leonardo)”

Should be a pretty seamless install right?

What’s the difference between the Kaimana Kameleon LED Driver and Mini LED? I have the Mini LED, could this be a issue with my Brooks UFB?

[JRDIBBS]

Got it all wired up and uploaded my profile to the mini-led. Doesn’t seem to be working. Have it connected directly to the 20-pin of my Brooks UFB. Am i missing something? What does the LED’s on the mini mean? Mine has a red led (that usually means something bad…) It appears I can upload the profile since the amber and the final green light will blink when it completes the upload.

Can I test this without mounting onto my buttons?

When uploading the profile do i have to have both the stick usb and the mini USB connected? I noticed i couldn’t update without having that mini usb connected, otherwise it wouldn’t show up under “Tools” -> “Port Com 3 (Arduino Leonardo)”

Should be a pretty seamless install right?

What’s the difference between the Kaimana Kameleon LED Driver and Mini LED? I have the Mini LED, could this be a issue with my Brooks UFB?

1st make sure the board is lined up with the UFB, meaning the kaimana mini should not “stick out” of the footprint of the UFB.

The kaimana should be connected to the computer in order for the upload to happen. You can definitely see the startup and idle animations even when no buttons are connected.

The khameleon is a jasens customs product which incorporates a USB switching circuit. This allows you to use only one USB connection for both boards. That along with a few other features is what separates it from the mini.

And yes the uint issue is one we plan to add to the FAQ for in the support site.

[hyp36rmax]

Got it all wired up and uploaded my profile to the mini-led. Doesn’t seem to be working. Have it connected directly to the 20-pin of my Brooks UFB. Am i missing something? What does the LED’s on the mini mean? Mine has a red led (that usually means something bad…) It appears I can upload the profile since the amber and the final green light will blink when it completes the upload.

Can I test this without mounting onto my buttons?

When uploading the profile do i have to have both the stick usb and the mini USB connected? I noticed i couldn’t update without having that mini usb connected, otherwise it wouldn’t show up under “Tools” -> “Port Com 3 (Arduino Leonardo)”

Should be a pretty seamless install right?

What’s the difference between the Kaimana Kameleon LED Driver and Mini LED? I have the Mini LED, could this be a issue with my Brooks UFB?

1st make sure the board is lined up with the UFB, meaning the kaimana mini should not “stick out” of the footprint of the UFB.

The kaimana should be connected to the computer in order for the upload to happen. You can definitely see the startup and idle animations even when no buttons are connected.

The khameleon is a jasens customs product which incorporates a USB switching circuit. This allows you to use only one USB connection for both boards. That along with a few other features is what separates it from the mini.

And yes the uint issue is one we plan to add to the FAQ for in the support site.

Sounds like i installed it correctly since it’s flush and follows the contour of the UFB. Pretty much followed the video guide that’s available on Youtube.

When uploading the profile i have it mounted onto the UFB and the mini usb connected via the Kaimana. (Disconnected the UFB USB) This lights up both the Kaimana and UFB. (Red and Blue PCB LED respectively) Or should I do the upload isolating the Kaimana instead? (I have to try this)

I do want to clarify the J2 Kaimana LED’s do not light up at all. No startup or idle animations.

When comparing the Mini and Khameleon you mentioned the later only requires one USB to power both. Do I need to run an additional power from my mini led to the additional USB UFB headers?

I just ordered additional J2 LED’s and wires just in case in any of the ones provided with the kit i purchased were defective. Still need to isolate each J2 LED just in case.

[JRDIBBS]

Got it all wired up and uploaded my profile to the mini-led. Doesn’t seem to be working. Have it connected directly to the 20-pin of my Brooks UFB. Am i missing something? What does the LED’s on the mini mean? Mine has a red led (that usually means something bad…) It appears I can upload the profile since the amber and the final green light will blink when it completes the upload.

Can I test this without mounting onto my buttons?

When uploading the profile do i have to have both the stick usb and the mini USB connected? I noticed i couldn’t update without having that mini usb connected, otherwise it wouldn’t show up under “Tools” -> “Port Com 3 (Arduino Leonardo)”

Should be a pretty seamless install right?

What’s the difference between the Kaimana Kameleon LED Driver and Mini LED? I have the Mini LED, could this be a issue with my Brooks UFB?

1st make sure the board is lined up with the UFB, meaning the kaimana mini should not “stick out” of the footprint of the UFB.

The kaimana should be connected to the computer in order for the upload to happen. You can definitely see the startup and idle animations even when no buttons are connected.

The khameleon is a jasens customs product which incorporates a USB switching circuit. This allows you to use only one USB connection for both boards. That along with a few other features is what separates it from the mini.

And yes the uint issue is one we plan to add to the FAQ for in the support site.

Sounds like i installed it correctly since it’s flush and follows the contour of the UFB. Pretty much followed the video guide that’s available on Youtube.

When uploading the profile i have it mounted onto the UFB and the mini usb connected via the Kaimana. (Disconnected the UFB USB) This lights up both the Kaimana and UFB. (Red and Blue PCB LED respectively) Or should I do the upload isolating the Kaimana instead? (I have to try this)

I do want to clarify the J2 Kaimana LED’s do not light up at all. No startup or idle animations.

When comparing the Mini and Khameleon you mentioned the later only requires one USB to power both. Do I need to run an additional power from my mini led to the additional USB UFB headers?

I just ordered additional J2 LED’s and wires just in case in any of the ones provided with the kit i purchased were defective. Still need to isolate each J2 LED just in case.

Only connect the kaimana mini to the computer with the USB cable, you will see the UFB light up because of the power pass through but only the kaimana will be communicating. If the leds are not lighting up connect each one individually to the kaimana and test them to see if it’s a bad led.

[hyp36rmax]

Got it all wired up and uploaded my profile to the mini-led. Doesn’t seem to be working. Have it connected directly to the 20-pin of my Brooks UFB. Am i missing something? What does the LED’s on the mini mean? Mine has a red led (that usually means something bad…) It appears I can upload the profile since the amber and the final green light will blink when it completes the upload.

Can I test this without mounting onto my buttons?

When uploading the profile do i have to have both the stick usb and the mini USB connected? I noticed i couldn’t update without having that mini usb connected, otherwise it wouldn’t show up under “Tools” -> “Port Com 3 (Arduino Leonardo)”

Should be a pretty seamless install right?

What’s the difference between the Kaimana Kameleon LED Driver and Mini LED? I have the Mini LED, could this be a issue with my Brooks UFB?

1st make sure the board is lined up with the UFB, meaning the kaimana mini should not “stick out” of the footprint of the UFB.

The kaimana should be connected to the computer in order for the upload to happen. You can definitely see the startup and idle animations even when no buttons are connected.

The khameleon is a jasens customs product which incorporates a USB switching circuit. This allows you to use only one USB connection for both boards. That along with a few other features is what separates it from the mini.

And yes the uint issue is one we plan to add to the FAQ for in the support site.

Sounds like i installed it correctly since it’s flush and follows the contour of the UFB. Pretty much followed the video guide that’s available on Youtube.

When uploading the profile i have it mounted onto the UFB and the mini usb connected via the Kaimana. (Disconnected the UFB USB) This lights up both the Kaimana and UFB. (Red and Blue PCB LED respectively) Or should I do the upload isolating the Kaimana instead? (I have to try this)

I do want to clarify the J2 Kaimana LED’s do not light up at all. No startup or idle animations.

When comparing the Mini and Khameleon you mentioned the later only requires one USB to power both. Do I need to run an additional power from my mini led to the additional USB UFB headers?

I just ordered additional J2 LED’s and wires just in case in any of the ones provided with the kit i purchased were defective. Still need to isolate each J2 LED just in case.

Only connect the kaimana mini to the computer with the USB cable, you will see the UFB light up because of the power pass through but only the kaimana will be communicating. If the leds are not lighting up connect each one individually to the kaimana and test them to see if it’s a bad led.

Will do. I’ll have an update tonight.