Kaillera is inferior. Anyone who says otherwise has a case of sour grapes. If you’re a begger you can’t be a chooser, but to eat mcdonalds when you could have steak is insanity.
Actually, that article has little to no relation to what he is talking about. The article talks about scrubs who think too highly of themselves, and don’t know how to analyze videos, among other things. The players r3ko describes claim to play for fun and admit they aren’t good and don’t care to get better because it’s not their goal to do so.
Obscurity of the link aside, I don’t see how anyone can play a game with the pretense of not caring if you win or not. The whole point of the game is to beat your opponent, not beat your opponent if it requires minimal effort or whatever other excuse you want to put in there. If you go into the game not caring if you win, why bother to play? I don’t see the “fun” in losing.
you know, i hated on kawaks for a long time, but i’ve recently tried it again and the input response is much better than that of mame. the only problem is the number of games and games like a3 not having balrog and juni etc unlocked by default
Kaillera sucks, leave that scrubby shit to people like Emil and Nagata.
/me runs away.
Later, Slide. Maybe you can still hit up private servers sometime or something.
Of course most would like to win, but when they do lose it probably doesn’t really bother them that much and even if it does i doubt they have any intention of figuring out why they lost and how they can improve. You got to remember these types of players are in abundance so even they get a good share of wins.
Not everyone has the drive to try and play some of these games properly. They either are unaware of the depth of the games or just don’t care to look on forums, study tactics and watch match videos. Some would think its pointless.
Most of my friends have very little interest in playing fighting games, the only game they will even tolerate is tekken. None of them know how to play the game, but that doesn’t stop them having a good time.
If you wanna play SF2 just use Zbattle or Kega. Both are very good emu’s that direct connect, so little to no lag.
I’ve got an idea: instead of investing all this time and energy into bitching and moaning and threatening to quit, why not invest an equal or greater amount of effort into evolving online play. I see a decent handful of good players here chiming in, some threatening to quit playing online altogether. Now, I’m not the one to say do or don’t go…if you wanna go, then I’m not the one to stop ya. But, instead how about playing exclusively on newer emus (H2Kaillera, Kawaks, FBA, and many others continually receive updates), with your preferred connection type, to set an example? Personally, if I can’t find a game and I see somebody waiting on a different emu, I will switch to match up with them…and many a time I have gone searching for said emu if I didn’t already have it. Of course, by the time I get said emu, configure directories and inputs, and get back online, inevitably the person is gone…but, hey, I’ve got it for next time. And that’s beside the point, cuz if any one of you better, generally respected players were to start a thread a) calling foolz out on such and such emu, server and connection type, or b) congregating to convince the masses that such and such emu is a better choice, I bet you would see results. Heck, if the better players would only play exclusively on a particular (better than Mame32k 0.64) emu, then the lesser-skilled regular players would have to follow suit. You see where this is leading? The evolution would propagate down to the bottom of the totem pole, and new bodies would have to use whatever emu has been deemed/proven itself as most playable.
So, first point of order: which emu is currently best?
I don’t think it helps that you play the game that’s probably most affected by lag. To the extent where an entire ISM is made somewhat unviable. The only other game I can think of that gets it as bad is ST, since one combo will finish you in that and lagging seriously fucks things up. The fact that you use a character who is extremely timing dependant on his chains probably doesn’t make things any easier either.
If you’re ever in the mood again, I’m always up for a game on excellent. You might be pleasantly surprised by uh, how much less shitty my Cody is now, lol. Wouldn’t be rape like before in any case.
I have had days where I get sick of it all though. The lag, the idiots, the same old games from 5 years ago, but I don’t really have a whole lot of other options, so I just grit my teeth and stick with it.
Kawaks does indeed have less input lag, but it has a host of other problems, not including fucking over keyboard users more or less. MAME32k 0.61 is about as good anyway.
If you’re talking to me, I haven’t played a3 in months. ST and CE are pretty much all I personally play these days. :wonder: My personal outlook on it is: the guy on the other end is dealing with the same crap I am. Granted, if it gets too laggy, I personally will say so, offer “ggs” and move on. But, that’s just me. I gauge the level of lag by the music. If the music is skipping, then that’s a pretty good indication that latency sucks…but if the music can play through normally, then anything else is irrelevant, imho. I am certainly interested to know of potentially less laggy solutions to this equation, though, and even more interested in those of us that play extremely frequently doing something to help evolve the kaillera community.
If you were referring to me, I will gladly play some a3 on excellent some time. I will keep my eye open for you. 
I was talking to Slide, lol.
We have never played Alpha 3 together.
Didn’t think so, hehe…man, you gotta use a quote if you’re gonna be responding a page later. 
But I will still keep an eye open…the revolution starts here, BROTHER!!! 
Everyone has to deal with the same lag. Blame losses on lag is just retarded. If you are the Alex Valle of SF you would easily beat down 99% of the people online with a little adjustment.
I would bet $$$ that 9 out of 10 times, the person who beat you 10-0 online would beat you offline as well, barring a really, really laggy connection which you should get out anyway.
I play on good 100% of the times and people combo into supers and do their infinity’s in VS games just fine and VCs in A3 just fine. The only time I had to go excellent was against you and I hardly notice a difference between excellent and good, I would say there are vastly superior players than you online and you need to L2P. There are people who beat me in A3 like 10 in a row in every game.
Majority of the people have no access to offline opponent those days. I have no desire to go to tournaments nor I really take 10-15 years old games seriously. People who play on Kaillera are MUCH MUCH BETTER than vast majority of the people who play offline (aka friends who come over to my place occassionally, they play fighters like once every 3 months). I play Kaillera to get the “good old days” arcade feeling, not to trying to win the next Evo thank you very much.
Good players will adjust instead of moaning “this crap would never work offline” when offline is dead and people who play online won’t even bother with it. Kaillera is every bit as good as XBL (minus ranking), perhaps you need to stop sharing connection with roommate who download bittorrent or check your ISP.
The “I can’t play online” excuse is just so silly when people who play FPS that require split second twitch or RTS that requires 200+ APM JUST FINE. You are not special, either adapt or get out of the kitchen cause you can’t handle heat.
NoAffinity i like the idea of switching to a more up to date emulator, but as the situation stands there is no need. The most popular games you will find the usual suspects, a3, mvc, kof etc. All those games are played on the current most popular emulators.
Mame32k0.64 hasn’t had an update for a little while, but what were the last games added, kof2003, ss5sp, etc. Basically the last the neogeo games. And Kawaks is has just about every neogeo and cps1+2 game running on it now.
So the only way i can see players switcing emulaters is when one of them can run a game (properly at full speed with no emu glitches) people actually want to play.
Martial Masters looks promising with it running on mame now, but its not running right yet. Also if the cps3 encryption ever gets cracked 3s would no doubt draw a large crowd. But by far the most promising games will be the 3d games.
Wouldn’t it be a treat to play tekken Tag, Doa 2, VF2/3 or Soul calibur on kaillera through mame. These would draw people in by the barrel full. Most of these games start up if i remember correctly, just loads of glitches and super slow down. So they can’t be that far off from becoming playable.
Also the ps2 emu is coming in leaps and bounds, hopefully they will include a p2p system but if its kaillera i’ll take it.
I think before we start switching emulators, we need to support mame development and so they can get these newer games working on their latest builds. Any ideas on how we can do this.
FPS’ are made with online play in mind. They have systems intact that counter act the lag present from playing online. These arcades games don’t.
Not likely. Slide is easily one of the best players I’ve ever played in A3. The difference between playing him on good and excellent is like Pre and Post K-Fed Britney. If you can’t tell the difference between good and excellent, then you’re either a) lucky in that you have an exceptional connection or b) used to dealing with lag that you’ve innately compensated so that you’ve desensitized yourself ot it.
And I’ll grant you that most players that win more offline will win more online, but there are certain people who play chars who are completely worthless in lag, like Slide. He’s stubborn however, in that he refuses to kowtow to lag abuse. Me, I’ll play dirty and pick Gief or Chun if delay gets bad enough and lag abuse like mad, but I guess he just has more scruples than me.
Thats a nice way of focring your thaughts. But the thing is, you cant see anything with those painted sunglasses you are wearing other than what is painted. They are meant to be for display but you put them on anyway.
Kaillera is an almost ideal implementation of netplay for these emulators. You heard me! Thats exactly what I said and thats exactly how it is! Of course, you would not know anyway. Because you are still wearing those painted glasses. And ZBATTLE better than Kaillera? Anyone with minimum ammount of knowledge of server/client and p2p architecture in netplay’s context would speak otherwise.
And you blind lot still go to GFW which uses a server that currently does nothing, nothing at all and not a thing to handle delay. Anyone but a meathead would consider it illegitimate. But you meatheads go there anyway and complain everyday about how the delay is bad. And whats the point of this thrad? Nobody cares if you meatheads quit kaillera or become homosexual.
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What server is UOKS? Hook it up with an IP, dawgy. :wgrin:
LOL! 
You dont know me, you dont know where i live, what i do, you basically don’t know a damn thing about me.
I dont think you’ve ever even played me before, correct me if im wrong.
You’re just making assumptions. You’re trying to throw shit at a wall and see what sticks.
I don’t give a shit if there are vastly superior people on kaillera than me or not! I don’t have anything to prove to you or anyone else that’s playing on kal. If did i’d join every game and challenge everybody, and i’d ALSO adapt to the lag. Which I wont. Cause it screws you when you play offline.
I can’t or won’t adapt to the lag, so I got out of the kitchen. I bet you feel real good now.
once again people runaway with assumptions.
I don’t even like godweapon. that place ghosts the most imo, straight up.
90%+ of the time i didnt even PLAY in that server.
lol steppin into shit like you know what’s going on.