Jwong vs Valle SF4 FT7 - Being Reviewed by Evo Staff

System_1 · May 27, 2009, 9:02pm

Good luck convincing the judge

Jennifer Aniston is a household name. Sorry to burst your bubble, but most people have no idea who those nerds are. I’m at SRK everyday and the only one I’ve ever heard of is Fatality, and that’s cause I read about him here.

You can’t own a person. You may sue them or discontinue professional relationships because they broke a contract, and that’s it.

If you’re smart about it, Justin’s MM and the like can be a great way to promote your company. You could ask Justin to use an Empire Arcadi hat while playing Daigo. Trying to diminish exposure for Justin will also diminish exposure for your company. I don’t get how you can flat out deny free promotion, but it’s your company, so do as you please

PS: When people say corporate money, they mean Toyota or Sony, not Empire or the diner around the corner. I’m not trying to be disrespectful, but I’m not sure Justin or anyone can live comfortably solely because of the Empire

box · May 27, 2009, 9:09pm

I’m only hyped for this event cause of the 10 grand that will be on the line.

If it was just Valle vs Wong (no 10 grand), I wouldn’t really care too much. People love bringing up Valle’s achievements before Wong hit the scene, but in the past 7 EVOs when Wong was around, Valle’s accomplishments pale compared to Wong’s.

Wong - MvC2 top 8 finishes - 2k2, 2k3, 2k4, 2k5, 2k6, 2k7, 2k8
CvS2 top 8 finishes - 2k3, 2k4, 2k5, 2k6, 2k7, 2k8
3S top 8 finishes - 2k4, 2k5, 2k8
ST top 8 finishes - 2k4, 2k8
Tekken 5 top 8 finishes - 2k6

Valle - CvS2 top 8 finishes - 2k2
ST top 8 finishes - 2k3, 2k4, 2k7, 2k8
AE top 8 finishes - 2k6
3S top 8 finishes - 2k6, 2k7

In terms of SF4, Valle hasn’t been travelling to tourneys as much as Wong has. I don’t think he’s faced as much of a variety of opponents as Wong has. I mean… you can only get better by playing in more tournaments and facing more competition right? Of course maybe IJDK :wgrin:

I’d much rather see Daigo run thru a gauntlet of American players like the Alpha 3 exhibition matches from way back when. 10 grand would be the only reason why I’d be hype for Valle vs Wong.

odin · May 27, 2009, 9:14pm

lol the pimp has spoken

JustinW · May 27, 2009, 9:15pm

box:

I’m only hyped for this event is cause of the 10 grand that will be on the line.

If it was just Valle vs Wong (no 10 grand), I wouldn’t really care too much. People love bringing up Valle’s achievements before Wong hit the scene, but in the past 7 EVOs when Wong was around, Valle’s accomplishments pale compared to Wong’s.

Wong - MvC2 top 8 finishes - 2k2, 2k3, 2k4, 2k5, 2k6, 2k7, 2k8
CvS2 top 8 finishes - 2k3, 2k4, 2k5, 2k6, 2k7, 2k8
3S top 8 finishes - 2k4, 2k5, 2k8
ST top 8 finishes - 2k4, 2k8

Valle - CvS2 top 8 finishes - 2k2
ST top 8 finishes - 2k3, 2k4, 2k7, 2k8
AE top 8 finishes - 2k6

In terms of SF4, Valle hasn’t been travelling to tourneys as much as Wong has. I don’t think he’s faced as much of a variety of opponents as Wong has. I mean… you can only get better by playing in more tournaments and facing more competition right? Of course maybe IJDK :wgrin:

I’d much rather see Daigo run thru a gauntlet of American players like the Alpha 3 exhibition matches from way back when. 10 grand is the only reason why I’m hyped for Valle vs Wong.

You forgot tekken 5 top 8 finish in 2k6 lol

I like tekken

BOSS FORCE HAS SPOKEN

sanford_kelly · May 27, 2009, 9:16pm

power333:

Good luck convincing the judge

Jennifer Aniston is a household name. Sorry to burst your bubble, but most people have no idea who those nerds are. I’m at SRK everyday and the only one I’ve ever heard of is Fatality, and that’s cause I read about him here.

You can’t own a person. You may sue them or discontinue professional relationships because they broke a contract, and that’s it.

If you’re smart about it, Justin’s MM and the like can be a great way to promote your company. You could ask Justin to use an Empire Arcadi hat while playing Daigo. Trying to diminish exposure for Justin will also diminish exposure for your company. I don’t get how you can flat out deny free promotion, but it’s your company, so do as you please

PS: When people say corporate money, they mean Toyota or Sony, not Empire or the diner around the corner. I’m not trying to be disrespectful, but I’m not sure Justin or anyone can live comfortably solely because of the Empire

First you don’t know what your talking about. Second Triforce knows he don’t own us but he owns the contracts to us. third he never said that J will never play a MM, he just said things have to run through him first. 4th that shit is disrespectful because you don’t know what guap empire gets. 5th some of us have been living of Empire for 7 years.

CaliSean · May 27, 2009, 9:18pm

TFGM:

Correction, not will be, is.

Justin is not going to compete in any “money match” because there is no more money matches for Justin. Due to business “Principles and Policies” it has to be a “Cash Prize”

None of my business.

Don’t care.

Whether any of you view Justin as an Icon in fighting games throughout the world or not, which in reality he is, doesn’t really matter. Diago on the other hand is just an Icon to this community and a hand full of gamers outside of it and all of Japan but in the world aspect, especially here in the US, Diago is not a household name when it comes to gaming. Gamers like Fatal1ty is, TSquared is, Carbon is, Karma is, Strongside is, even the old school gamers like Billy Mitchell and Todd Rogers are actual house hold names in gaming. Its just that you guys here in SRK do not know.

Justin has done a lot of promotional bids for the community such as special challenges and interviews and things of that nature which has contributed to the further development SRK as a community and Evo as an event. That is in no way to say that he has made SRK, so before anyone start putting words in my mouth, let that fact be known. Many gamers have contributed to SRK’s development and that is great because these players are from the SRK community. Choi, Valle, Watson etc. However Justin does not belong to SRK, he belongs to the Empire and even if he had said yes, I would have over ruled and stopped it.

For the last couple of years I’ve “ALLOWED” Justin and many other contracted players in Empire Arcadia to run free, to do bids for people and stuff and it has never helped or benefited this organization but it has surely helped others advance. Very rarely is Empire Arcadia even credited for any of that work. Of the people here in the SRK/Evo community outside of Empire or its fans, only Seth Killian has given credit to my company. The few people that know that the players are “LEGALLY” contracted to the Company have not and will not give this credit and that is fine. Whether you people want to accept it is a company or not is irrelevant. I really stopped caring back in 2006. My gamers and I use the word “MY” because they belong to MY company, will no longer be used without the express written consent of Empire Arcadia, Inc. or myself. They are allowed to compete in these tournaments on their own merit but promotional stuff…heh…those days are DONE.

Evo has their policies on the use of images and likeness of players and that is fine. It has never been a problem with me. What happens at Evo under Justin or any other player in Empire Arcadia in the standard line up of competition is fine. Anything outside of that must run through me, because I’m Justin’s boss and at the end of the day I will have to answer to any problems that may come up and deal with my partners and associates that now fund my company. Real talk.

Have a nice day.

I remember when EC used to have faith in their boy. LOL @ PINK TACO status.

Ponder · May 27, 2009, 9:18pm

It looks like the match is off until Empire Arcadia and whoever’s representing Alex Valle can come to an agreement about the format and stakes. If that ever happens, both parties please contact myself or Mr. Wizard if you are interested in making it a more formal event at EVO.

I am leaving this thread open for comment from the community. :lovin:

dogface · May 27, 2009, 9:18pm

And don’t sleep on X-Men vs Street Fighter 2k8 Champion!

Serious Justin, you’re the top dood in SFIV right now. Everyone wants to see you vs Valle but your reasons are legit. You should just set up the autograph booth at EVO. However, looks like a lot of people would rather have you in a dunk tank.

b1gazn · May 27, 2009, 9:20pm

the track record clearly shows the better player; Valle. YJDK!!!

two2tone · May 27, 2009, 9:22pm

instead of wasting thread space you coulda just said this

iRedman · May 27, 2009, 9:28pm

Hello ppl, how about we just play the game lol. EVO I CANT WAIT!!! I FEEL THE TENSION SO THICK!!!

Grog · May 27, 2009, 9:33pm

Do we have a new side event brewing?

Gigazord · May 27, 2009, 9:33pm

Shut up May 09er…

Alvin81 · May 27, 2009, 9:36pm

that’s cuz i rather not pay tickets to see duncan’s fundamentals of shooting off the backboard. If that’s what i wanted to see I would’ve went to the local high school and watch the girl’s team practice. At least there will be more ‘bouncing’.

Robust · May 27, 2009, 9:38pm

where does combofiend play into this? Last time i check he wrecked justin wizzle

Bacardi · May 27, 2009, 9:39pm

:lovin::lovin::lovin::lovin::lovin::lovin::lovin::lovin::lovin::lovin:

Something to read at work

shenakuma · May 27, 2009, 9:46pm

I’d rather see this a non-business/contract lolligag, booooo.

dayday · May 27, 2009, 9:49pm

That’s the double truth. Only the communities that those gamers are in know who the fuck those dudes are. I don’t know anybody outside of diehard fighting game fans that know who Justin is, but even casual gamers know what Street Fighter is. The match was for the community IMO.

iRedman · May 27, 2009, 9:51pm

You can lick some blanka balls :wasted::wasted:

May O9 in this lassie (a.k.a female dog, a.k.a bit**)

sanford_kelly · May 27, 2009, 9:54pm

That’s what I’m talking about. No offense Valle but I think Peter and Justin would be godlike on the big screen at evo. Real talk thats what I wanted to see to begin with.