(I was unaware about Tim being the Robin in the Arkham series, mostly because I do not care about those, but I already knew about the other two instances.)
Meh. I do not hate Bruce. I just find “Prep-time Batman is God” plots and arguments to be bullshit even if it is implicitly the only way that Batman can hang with the JLA against most of the world-ending bullshit they deal with every other day.
(So does that mean Ra’s Al Ghul made out with Tim later while in Talia’s body? [/intentionally mixing-up media])
Ha at the very image itself being titled “ihavefriends”.
To be more accurate, it is not that Bruce lacks friends or even effective family. By Hades, Bruce doubtless has the largest extended superhero family of all the DC heroes at this point even if you ignore the people who call him friend, even as one-sided as those relationships may be. The only person who might beat him in that department is his own adopted son, Nightwing, which says a lot.
No, Bruce’s problem is more that he is often just an asshole to those people for next to no reason a lot of the times on top of being naturally aloof and extremely stubborn about things, i.e. letting other superheroes into Gotham even if it might save people’s lives and not killing even in the rare circumstances where it would doubtless save people’s lives like with The Joker. Tim does not have that problem, though ironically in the inevitably dark futures that pop up in comic books, he often goes super-villain for the exact opposite reason: he cares too much and then fixates on some tragedy and snaps because of it. [/in before Uchiha comparison]
Man, being a comic-book superhero fucking sucks. You are basically doomed to a bad future no matter what.
This is what I find nonsense. There are over a dozen characters that have this same prep time ability including Deathstroke and nobody bitches about it until Batman does it.
Ironman finds some way to beat Doom or Galactics and people just go “well Ironman is OP with prep so cool he didnt even really need his armor.”
Reed is deus ex machina the character at this point. Holding victories over galaxy busters.
Now niggas are saying Batman’s not even that good of a fighter in this thread now. Shit is jokes.
(Oh. Ron Perlman as a Deathstroke’s voice in movie would be very nice.)
Deathstroke actually has powers, though, and I do not recall saying that I personally like either Iron Man or Reed Richards so your examples are meaningless to me, though at least in their cases they both are smarter than Bruce and generally have technology that is leagues better than even Batman’s usually top-of-the-realistic-line “toys”.
I am similarly also not contesting that Batman is not a good fighter, but there are certainly people in the DCU who are better than him, even among his own “family”. I was merely explaining why I can see people not liking Batman or at least versions of him.
If you want to be mad over people saying nonsense without trying to even refute it, then you do that.
How smart all 3 of them are depends on the writer. Reed and especially Stark have done ALOT of dumber shit than Bruce has fucked up. At any given moment they could be god tier saints or fucked up assholes.
Deathstroke true power is ridiculous plot armor. Everything else he has is all over the place especially how his healing works. He isn’t as intelligent as any of the above so his prep feats are even more insane. Not simple at all but not a genius.
I understand what you were saying but I still feel it’s one of the worse reasons to dislike the character (or versions of a character). “Batman is god” is right up there with “Superman is too nice” for popular dumb fan hate.
(It is fine that you feel that way, Reason4U. It is allowed after all.)
That said, that you feel that way personally does literally nothing to dissuade other people from thinking that “prep-time Batman can beat anyone” arguments are stupid, especially given often it shows up in canon and especially since I know I am not the only person who also has a problem with Iron Man or Mister Fantastic either. Admittedly a significant amount of my animus towards those two related to the first Civil War making them both basically fascists. At least that never happened to Batman, who has been consistently a dark, brooding asshole post-Adam West 60s version, Young Justice version aside.
Anyway, the complaint about Superman being “too nice” is nothing something I remember ever seeing and it sounds super ironic given that current movie (and video game) Superman has the exact opposite problem as of late. Unless by “too nice”, you mean the complaint that he is “boring”, which is not necessarily the same thing and relates more to this power-level and lazy writers making his stories about beating up other stupidly strong people when we already knew he is going to win, first instance of Doomsday aside.
I agree with him. I love Batman but it would be nice if DC sidelined him for a bit and let their other characters shine. That’s another area where Marvel has DC beat. They are willing to give their secondary heroes a chance to be household names.
Isn’t DC doing Shazam tho? Also DC just keeps dropping the ball. Marvel played it safe at first too but now that they have a system everyone is already on board. DC made a random shitty green lantern movie that flopped iirc. They need to put benbats in everything until their franchise can stand on its own without him IMO.
I might catch heat for this but why no black batman? he doesn’t have to be a millionaire he can be a comic artist and his son can be a rebellious robin and they both live in a apartment in Chicago with a high crime rate, his ex wife would be batwoman and black robin’s best friend would become the oracle of the group. All the villains would would have different origins like the joker being a failing comedian who only turned into the joker because he was trying to stop a robbery attempt of a defenseless woman and he accidentally killed the robber and snaps while laughing about it
this would print money, matter of fact I think I might write about it