With Viper she could do burn kick between c.lp and c.mk. What makes Ryu BS in this regards is he can OS SRK from his c.MK.
Didn’t know Ryu could OS from cr.mk, lol. I guess you’d have to mash when the hadouken comes out with something with enough invincibility to blow through it.
All you need in a blockstring is to push your opponents far away enough to not have to deal with a reversal. Ticking with c.lk and c.lp, mixing up with throw, overhead, bait-throw & punish, divekicks, counters, some fireball mixup/chip and of course blocking (!!!) leads to a pretty successful offensive game I think. FSE is just a buff to this when activated since every hit can turn into a 200-300 damage combo when you’ve got about 7-15 seconds (depending on when you activate it), and Kaisen Dankairaku is a simple damage option that is comboable AND usable as punishment (up close, or from far possible with EX Shikusen). Defensive she seems to be lacking, we have to see how well EX Senpusha performs, whether its like an EX Messiah or not. Counters are armor broken, and she has low vitality. Thankfully she has a wonderful dash speed and a beautiful walk animation <3
Aw man, I had high hopes for Juri. I’m going to be depressed if Juri’s game relies on gimmicks.
Mash DP says hi. 
In theory there was a lot of things that sounded really good about her but if you take it into perspective and context of the game engine she’s going to get beat out by some pretty retarded BS. At least that’s the way I’m viewing it at the moment. Nothing is concrete with Juri until a good 3-6 months in the games release, imo. She’s a potential character like Viper but its going to take time beforewe see anything incredibly good with her. I expect her placement on the tier list to fluctuate much like Viper.
Gimmicky characters are the most fun to play lol…well for me anyways…
If Juri ends up being all smoke and mirrors like Viper, or a balls-to-the-wall, all or nothing mixup character like Abel I will pick her up in a heartbeat.
You’re right, they are fun to play. But for some reason I always end up playing that type. I wanted to change and look what happened XD. For once I don’t want to put so much work into winning.
Blah sorry I went back to check where I saw the combo and I misread the inputs on one of her trials. I thought it said c.shortx2, c.forward which should be able to combo into pinwheels but it was s.forward. My bad sorry.
You know I didn’t notice this before when I was viewing the trial information:
- Jumping Medium Punch, Dive Kick (in the air), Ultra 2 (421 damage)
I’m not sure if this was an anti-air combo where someone at a fight night mentioned j.mp, land, j.mp, land, EX Dive Kick, land, Ultra 2 worked. I hope this trial means hit confirm the j.Strong, buffer into Dive Kick get the wall bounce, Ultra 2 after you land.
Less than stellar damage is the side-effect of hit-confirming link combos, no?
Also wrong guy, not my video I was just offering possible link combo suggestions 
Interesting to see how much they changed Juri since she was first announced. I remember J.Wong saying that the combo that Killey mentioned was possible back when he first used her. I wonder when it was changed/removed. If any of the combos Sugami posted are possible, then I’m sure she’ll be fine in the BnB department. Basic link combos never really did too much damage from what I’ve seen, unless you could lead into a hard punch or kick.
Oh now I see where I saw that combo. It’s in the combo thread.
-> cr.lk x 2 ~ cr.mk xx EX Senpusha/pinwheel kick = ~193 damage
Unless this information is accurate. Though EX Pinwheel should knock down and if this does combo into RH Pinwheel it should do the same unless RH pinwheel has too much startup frames to combo into c.forward after 2 c.shorts.
Of course the shoto’s will probably be problematic for Juri, but I think DP’s are as much of a problem as you make them to be. Hopefully she has a good normal to safejump the slower DP’s, but any time I’ve gotten hit to date by a DP I probably deserved it. I do agree with you that her tier placement will probably fluctuate quite a bit, but I think she’s solid enough to be at least a good mid-tier. Either way I think if we make some solid contributions and learn from each other we’ll probably see a good playstyle within 1-2 months after release.
if only sh1Nd would make a vid demonstrating her nromals and anti airs
I think, but I’m not too sure, her far s.LK has quite a bit of reach (possibly was s.MK but seemed quick enough for LK) and if she can cancel from that then that should make link combos easier (if a bit less damaging) but then it wouldn’t really be all that dissimilar from Sakura’s c.LK > c.LP > s.LK xx HP Shououken for example.
Would seem kinda silly if she didn’t have “good” link combos considering how “unsafe” most of her specials are… x_x;;
I don’t remember seeing the heavy version of pinwheel knocking down, I thought only the EX version did.
Not sure about her BnBs in terms of damage, they seem weak to me but probably because I main ken as one of my characters (his BnBs do average 300+ damage or more), her hit confirms/block strings seem ok though.
I have a feeling she’s going to relie on post mixup shenanigans after pinwheel/EX pinwheel to deliver damage similar to ken or sakura, lucky enough her normals seem to be pretty good, footsie game looks good.
anybody knows how her dash and walk speed compare to chun’s??
Wait, what I could have sworn I saw a video with RH Pinwheel knocking down. Bleh…I should just shut up until new videos or the game is out.
It’s certainly not only the EX version that knocks down. The roundhouse version does, as seen in sh1Nd’s vs. Adon vids and I’m pretty sure the forward version does as well.
DrDOgg, if that particular combo (cr.lk x 2 -> c.mk xx pinwheel) doesn’t work, can you tell us which of the ones that Sugami posted do work? I know the damage on her normals and her EX pinwheel so if you could provide the combos I can provide the numbers.
He’s probably signed a NDA so I don’t think he can give us any information at the moment.
I thought the embargo was lifted?