Jojo's Bizarre Adventure - Don't Say Wrry Edition

Just saw the latest episode! Holy shit. This is why Diamond is unbreakable has been awesome.

And poor Rohan! Not sure how to feel about that one. Even though he was a douchebag when he first showed up and seemed like a part-time manipulative psychopath afterwards, he still rose to the occasion to show courage and try to save the day when others needed him.

Also Kira is really proving to be a devious and High-tier threat in the JoJo-verse.

Rohan really the most steezy character. His car>>>> Also Vol 4 intros are all goat. 1st heard it and was like wtf? Round the 3rd listen the shit makes me feel motivated

His mental fortitude is really insane. Like he really believes body can stop him from living quietly in Morioh and that alone is what makes him threatening. But then again Josuke already broke similar rules too

The latest intro to Diamond is unbreakable has kinda grown on me but, i remember really hating it at first. It is very well-animated and designed, with tons of cool references but, that’s about it.

I still think they could have cooked up a cooler and more appropriate intro but, it’s ā€œalrightā€ i guess.

Holy shit! Just saw the latest episode!

THAT. WAS. AWESOME.

Battle Tendency is still Top-Dog but, Diamond is Unbreakable has officially surpassed Stardust Crusaders.

Lol at how you praise the awesome comedy, writing, and pacing of a great overall diamond is unbreakable

But shit on the great comedy that is dragon ball super

Diamond is Unbreakable makes up for the budget like dbs with great writing and voice work

The groundhog day dredd

Well seeing as how this topic is on the second page, with the last post being 8 days ago and having nothing to do with the show, despite the latest episode just landing. So i KNOW the majority of SRK doesn’t give a damn but…

Holy crap!! Another awesome episode!!

And damn, i took me a bit to catch on to what was happening with Okuyasu. Uh-oh.

Also i call bullshit on how things were ā€œundoneā€, when it was clearly established that Fate was in play. Something that happened before is sorta set, and has no choice but to happen again. Just because Kira undoes Bites the dust, shouldn’t fucking change the rules of Fate but…whatever.

Still a great episode!

What do you guys think?

hears crickets chirping

That’s what i thought. Maybe if word got out that Joseph & Jotaro was still around in Part 4, the Stardust crowd would have stuck around lol.

Part 4 is better than Part 3. Kira is a great character and the fights in Part 4 have been great thus far. There were a few obvious inconsistencies with the last episode but not enough for me to discredit the episode. Great episode.

What you have to remember is that a lot of these inconsistencies can come from translations not being completely accurate. If Bites the Dust is undone then there’s no third bomb to explode, ā€œfateā€ only occurs when BtD is active.

^^ That’s the kinda bullshit i’m talking about. That should be impossible.

That would mean Bites the dust has reality-altering capability.

That fate ā€œtrap cardā€ is just Araki trying to give reason to Deus Ex Machina to allow Kira to have the one up on people or situations. To say that fate is tied to Bites the Dust is interesting but we can’t conclude that Bites the Dust has the ability to increase Kira’s luck. Kira was lucky well before Bites the Dust was in the picture.

Yo did the dumb guy really just bite it? Cause what an utter waste of a great stand if he did lol.

Once fate is set and what has happened is doomed to happen again, as established by the show and Rohan exploding no matter what, it should remain as such whether Bites the dust is in effect or not.

By being able to clearly alter the events of fate just by Kira undoing it, means Bites the Dust has some reality-altering capability.

He got trapped in a groundhog day loop because of the arrow granting him 3 different and powerful stands

Kira is super intriguing. He admits to not being strong and that his stands are what give him any strength.

The best part of part 4 is the characters and fleshed out writing. The voice acting is also pretty damn good.

I had to watch part 1 and 2 in dubbed format. Enjoyed it

The way I saw it is that the ā€œfateā€ is being maintained by the bite the dust ability, if it isn’t in effect the ā€œfateā€ isn’t maintained and it doesn’t happen.

That would also explain why Kira wasn’t planning on undoing the ability until his targets had actually exploded.

It just works.

No, that’s King Crimson.

That’s a pretty powerful ability then, if it can so easily influence reality like that.

And he can simply ā€œswitchā€ it off and instantaneously alter the course of fate itself.

That’s exactly what it is, people are getting way too hung up on the word fate. Yes Kira is very lucky in situations but Bites the Dust has rules, you’ve seen them play out.

Third bomb is active = time loop start point [Day 1> Hayato tells someone about Kira > third bomb explodes and kills person A > time loop, Kira doesn’t know anything

Third bomb is active = time loop start point [Day 1v.2> Hayato does nothing > third bomb explodes, person A still dies because ā€œfateā€ is active> time continues until either > Hayato triggers another third bomb explosion or Kira ends it.

Kira NEEDS to be sure that a time loop has occured and who died prior to the loop to ensure his victory. If he ended the loop after the first explosion then he’d still have the rest of the gang coming after him.

what happens in the anime/manga

Third bomb is active = time loop start point [day 1v.4> Hayato and Josuke attack Kira > Kira recalls KQ to defend thus ending Bites the Dust > no third bomb, no target, time loop is over

Kira has to recall Killer Queen and end Bites the Dust before the first bomb explosion. If you want to get hung up about the use of ā€œfateā€ imagine ā€œfateā€ = ā€œbombā€.

rules via the wiki

[details=Spoiler]

Kira is granted this ability when Yoshihiro Kira’s Stand-creating Arrow pierces him a second time. It is born from Kira’s desire to prevent anyone from knowing his true identity, as well as his desperation following his impulsive murder of Hayato Kawajiri.

This bomb appears as a miniaturized form of Killer Queen that hides within whoever it is planted on; it acts independently of Kira’s will, manifesting only when the bomb is triggered. In the only example shown, it is planted on Hayato Kawajiri. When someone interrogates Hayato about Kira, a mini Killer Queen enters their eye before inducing its all-consuming explosion.

After killing someone with its power, Bites the Dust creates a temporal loop; rewinding time up roughly up to an hour prior to the detonation. Because Bites the Dust is completely independent and autonomous, Kira is not informed about who gets killed, nor is he aware of every time loop. In fact, the only person who retains memory of each time loop is the person sheltering Bite the Dust. All actions performed in the previous time loop is destined to occur as it had happened, though slight deviations are permitted. However, any person marked by Bites the Dust in a previous time loop is still destined to explode at the exact time that they were previously killed in, even if they did not interrogate the person used as the bomb in the current time loop.

Because the person on whom this bomb is planted must be alive in order to activate the trigger, Bites the Dust will neither harm the person in any way during the explosions, nor will it let them be harmed by other forces, such as when the miniature Killer Queen prevented Hayato from slitting his own throat with a knife to prevent anyone else from dying. Ironically, Bites the Dust also prevents the Stand User themselves from harming the bomb’s carrier. It also appears to be able to revive that person after death, as seen when Hayato was alive once more after Kira had accidentally killed him in the bath, implying that time was relooped to prevent Hayato from dying and also making it so he was not destined to die again the same way.

The only way to stop Bites the Dust’s effect is to force Kira to withdraw it. All targets marked for death in a previous time loop will also be spared of their fate if the effects deactivation occurs before their original time of death if this occurs. However, like Kira’s other abilities, using Bites the Dust forcibly prevents him from activating any of Killer Queen’s abilities, thus he must maintain the ability in order to keep the effects. Also, Hayato discovers that Bites the Dust only works on non-Stand users, such that Kira can only tell a non-Stand user his secrets to enable the ability. [/details]

If people don’t understand Bites the Dust and how dogmatic characters can be then fuck, I weep for this thread when King Crimson comes around and when Pucci uses the word ā€œHeavenā€

*As someone who loves part 5, they’re going to have a hard time figuring out a lot of things.

Can’t wait for some Risotto Nero with Metallica. Turururu.*