John Nelson, Tournament Legacy, and Team HORI

[Necrophile]

I think this was probably because of the NOS girls they just had on with Fanatiq.

I agree that this was what incited the tweet.

However, I don’t think Haz deserves to be condemned for bringing in the NOS girls. This is a free country. The NOS girls wanted to talk on stream and seems they had a lot of fun in doing so. The viewers had a good time, NOS Girls had a good time, no criminal acts were committed by Haz, so it’s all good.

I’m surprised that Ponder did not criticize John Nelson who is cheating players of their money, but he chose to criticize Haz and the NOS Girls for having some fun that doesn’t hurt anyone.

[kaoticdragon]

I don’t think anybody is blaming you for not coming out with it sooner. The thing now should be to not blame anybody else in the crossfire, such as Hazmat for streaming the tournament, with possibly no background knowledge of who John Nelson is.

I agree. There is a reason why I specifically stuck with TL/Nelson in my OP, and I was well aware of Champ/Combo/Justin/Ricky tweeting about Rev 2012

Like I said am not watching the stream, so I was hoping/assuming Ponder’s tweet was because TL was doing something stupid on stream. Oh wells

[Lord_Raptor]

What happened witht he NOS girls? can’t check twitter.

[Surenio]

I agree that this was what incited the tweet.

However, I don’t think Haz deserves to be condemned for bringing in the NOS girls. This is a free country. The NOS girls wanted to talk on stream and seems they had a lot of fun in doing so. The viewers had a good time, NOS Girls had a good time, no criminal acts were committed by Haz, so it’s all good.

I’m surprised that Ponder did not criticize John Nelson who is cheating players of their money, but he chose to criticize Haz and the NOS Girls for having some fun that doesn’t hurt anyone.

Clearly you have no Idea why Ponder tweeted what he did. Think about it a little harder and maybe you’ll realize what the NOS girls on stream + Fanatiq was showcasing.

[Mr.X]

What happened witht he NOS girls? can’t check twitter.

https://twitter.com/Persia_xo/status/237325860267499521

“Girls are nice to look at but not to commentate.” Yeah, that was smooth… Officially not watching Revelations anymore.

[Necrophile]

Clearly you have no Idea why Ponder tweeted what he did. Think about it a little harder and maybe you’ll realize what the NOS girls on stream + Fanatiq was showcasing.

Some people get offended over the smallest things. Were the NOS Girls offended? Nope, they were having a good time. Was any law broken? Nope.

Did Haz and NOS Girls having a good time harm anyone? Nope. Does John Nelson cheating players of their money harm people? Yup.

Some people would rather focus on playing the role of the “e-sports morality police” rather than criticize thieves.

[forgenjuro]

shots fired Mark Julio (マークマン) ‏[SIZE=12px][S]@[/S]MarkMan23[/SIZE]
[S]@[/S]FishStix have you guys ever banned a group/company from streaming on your service?

[kaoticdragon]

pretty sure I don’t need to say this but… I said it anyways
https://twitter.com/kaoticdragon/status/237332670454059008
@MarkMan23 supported #FightForRelief when HORI was also a sponsor. @TL_EVENTS refused to support charity. It’s clear who is better #FGC

[Necrophile]

https://twitter.com/Persia_xo/status/237325860267499521

I think he meant those 2 specific girls who were on his stream and who are not knowledgeable about these games ( they can’t even pronounce modern warfare correctly ), he didn’t mean ALL girls.

[Lord_Raptor]

I think he meant those 2 specific girls who were on his stream and who are not knowledgeable about these games ( they can’t even pronounce modern warfare correctly ), he didn’t mean ALL girls.

Yeah it was pretty obvious and people are gonna blow this out of proportion. Can’t wait for the kotaku articles.

[janoDX]

What happened witht he NOS girls? can’t check twitter.

Nos girls appeared with fanatiq, sexiest comments, looked like a “put 2 hotties on stream to bring viewers” = Call Kotaku.

[Raz0r]

I

The day I’ll lose 1100 cash that I’m TOLD I would receive, the day I’ll invest in a work I have NO CONTRACT for, the day I’ll delay an album for a year and a half because some dude “GUARANTEED” me money, I’ll make sure not to introduce myself as a “not ignorant fucking buffoon running in circles” because I clearly am one.

My new favorite troll poster.

[GreenFingersPhD]

Can someone clearly explain the NOS + Fanatiq thing. Is it just because they joked about girls not being able to commentate? Is it because they were on stream like that? Is it because Fanatiq was on stream with them? Did they put NOS on blast or the NOS girls on blast?

Like, what happened, quit giving stupid clues and saying “think about it”… I am and I wasn’t present for them being on stream, so I am missing things.

[Surenio]

Some people get offended over the smallest things. Were the NOS Girls offended? Nope, they were having a good time. Was any law broken? Nope.

Did Haz and NOS Girls having a good time harm anyone? Nope. Does John Nelson cheating players of their money harm people? Yup.

Some people would rather focus on playing the role of the “e-sports morality police” rather than criticize thieves.

Once again, there’s a specific reason why he tweeted what he did towards Hazmat and it holds true if you consider the bigger picture which you clearly don’t. There’s also a reason why neither Ponder, nor anyone else is commenting or tweeting about John Nelson or TL or RevaLAtions. There’s a lot more to consider and for the record that doesn’t make him a thief. It makes him a liar.

Stop defending the NOS girls + Fanatiq on stream as just having fun.

[Raz0r]

I think he meant those 2 specific girls who were on his stream and who are not knowledgeable about these games ( they can’t even pronounce modern warfare correctly ), he didn’t mean ALL girls.

You really are dumb if you can’t see how this is a problem after the year we’ve had. I say we because it affects us all who are in the FGC.

[Raz0r]

All I’m saying is that not everybody reads…what Honzo Gonzo says.

You shut your goddamn dirty mouth.

[SEPU7V3DA-jIn]

I agree that this was what incited the tweet.

However, I don’t think Haz deserves to be condemned for bringing in the NOS girls. This is a free country. The NOS girls wanted to talk on stream and seems they had a lot of fun in doing so. The viewers had a good time, NOS Girls had a good time, no criminal acts were committed by Haz, so it’s all good.

I’m surprised that Ponder did not criticize John Nelson who is cheating players of their money, but he chose to criticize Haz and the NOS Girls for having some fun that doesn’t hurt anyone.

haz is a peice of shit and knew what TL was about, he knew the issues with Valles camp and completely did not give a fuck cause he was promised that paper to stream. Believe me Haz is no better if worst than nelson, hell check our old az threads!

[muzras]

haz is a peice of shit and knew what TL was about, he knew the issues with Valles camp and completely did not give a fuck cause he was promised that paper to stream. Believe me Haz is no better if worst than nelson, hell check our old az threads!

If you what you say is true about HAZ, good to know. These Frauds deserve each other, HAZ knew about some the shady shit TL / JN done in the past but chose to move forward to work with TL. Because he has a “contract” with them LOLz, itz all bout dat Paypuh. Hopefully everything works out.

[EricGGMusic]

Well, if the streaming staff for Hazmat get paid, then who cares? Everyone’s gotta find a way to make money. They’re just people providing the content and have nothing to do with how the tournament is run.

[Raz0r]

What’s wrong with doing something for money? What Level Up went through is a separate issue from Hazmat being hired to stream. If we worked for the same employer and you were fired would you expect me to go with you?