cr.LK xx L Earthquake,
cr.LK xx L DP,
cr.LK>st.MP>st.MP (hit-confirm)
grab,
stomp OH.
after the crossup I’ve been doing a st cl hp or cr lp into AAA -> whateverthe most damage for meter I have is.
I have not been changing much of what I was already doing. Never really jacks cross up ever… Is still early so…
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my gameplan has stayed mostly the same as well except I’m trying to make myself remember to use the crossup
Yes, Jack stays pretty much the same, but the roll nerf hurt him as well as helps him. If Jack gets trapped in the corner he is almost helpless now. Mp dp is a bad idea if you are not anti airing since you are very unsafe now even on tag cancel. I like how he can seismo (hit)-> dash -> seismo/ or wait for the opponent to roll, and then grab them.
I have been doing Fp xx lp dp ->hp dp after launching Jack in, and then gone for cross up mk mixups, but I feel like Jack is better off with doing st.lp-> c.mk xx gigaton punch, to do about the same damage and get back in to the zoning game. I think I will only go for crossup mk mixups in to pressure if I really need to make a comeback. Jack seems to get interupted a lot if I do crossup mk->st.lk if the mk is blocked. Maybe I’ll use it more if I find a good deep safe jump crossup mk.
Also as someone mentioned, I think I will incorporate ex seismo in to my game to some degree. I never used this before, but people are getting too comfortable blocking seismo high, and since the ex seismo hits low and does a chunk of damage, I might use it now and then.
I tried to use cossack kicks more now, since it does a bunch of damage on hit. But since the first hit still don’t connect with the 2nd, it sucks, and I think I won’t bother.
So I’ve just been pressing buttons with this guy…yeah losing the low hit on all but the EX Earthquake will take away some of his durp factor. EX earthquake could be pretty good still with some meter gems attached. Especially since the range on it like Viper’s EX seismo is a pretty good distance in front of him.
He does good damage with basic combos although he will definitely take more time to learn since you can’t just durp earthquake all day.
It’d be nice to get some vast frame data on him.
I think that’s why I’ve hardly noticed his few nerfs. I almost never spammed seismo unless I was fucking with someone. I enjoy gettin’ in dat ass too much.
As far as I can tell from general match experience, c.lp xx seismo (lp or mp) seems to still be his best blockstring if you are expecting a block and just want to push them out. Even the lp version of seismo still has massive pushback, and remains safe against most things.
As a second option, his s.lk, mp, mp chain into his tekken string seems to remain safe as long as you stop at one of the mps. It’s even still possible to mixup 2 mps and 3 mps if they commit to walking forwards or pushing a button after blocking the second dp. Chaining all the way to the hp, however, is NOT safe.