Tap through fireball isnt all that useful against a smart ryu anyways imo.
i heard he didnt pick sagat because he forgot how to tigershot
This is why people root for guys like Daigo.
The fact that Wong was honest enough to mention that he forgot about TAP and EX is noteworthy. He could’ve easily made up some bull about mindgames and most people would be none the wiser, but he owned up to it. Plus it isn’t like it was absolutely necessary considering how Daigo adapts.
Reason people say footsies is useless is because they are! Footsies only work if your opponent is going to do it as well, just like any martial arts. Try that footsies stuff on some scrub and see how well it works, it won’t. This is one reason I’m kind of getting turned off from SFIV, and really all fighting games. I don’t have anyone to play it with locally, so I just play online, and playing random people all the time isn’t good for getting better. The skill level and understanding of things is too different for everyone to the point that any top player strategies will not work on most of the people. When I say “will not work”, it doesn’t mean that I won’t win, it just means that the specific pro strat doesn’t work so I have to resort to some scrub tactic at which point yea I’m going to win, but I’m not going to get better from the win. An empty win doesn’t mean anything to me. I end up playing, winning (and even losing due to boredom), but never really improving at anything.
I haven’t found that to be the case at all, as a new player. When I play Balrog online I do most (55-60% usually) of my damage through normals, and I’ve only played enough to hit G3-A. Against SRK-spamming Kens, Ryus in love with c.mk->fireball, lots of ‘scrubby’ stuff. Daigo vs Wong taught me how powerful s.rh is as a poke and it improved my game, even playing against the bottom of the barrel.
I thought it was too risky for those moves. But still that match was epic!
How does a pro SF4 player forget that Balrog’s TAP and EX punches go through fireballs though?
I’ve never really played Balrog at all and I couldn’t possibly forget that… and obviously Justin Wong knows 1000 times more about the game than I do.
I have to respectfully disagree. The whole reason it’s a top level strategy is because it’s successful, regardless of competition. If you’re telling me that high level play only works on high level players, then it’s akin to scrubs complaining that all I do is ‘block and counter instead of fighting like a man’. Strategies don’t work because both players agree to hit eachother only with specific attacks. That’s a ridiculous excuse to losing a match.
Footsies are an element of strategy, and a round shouldn’t be built entirely around them. If your opponent likes to turtle or has an excellent aa counter, then you have to resort to footsies. If you’re getting punished because your opponent is seeig this and not letting you hit them because they don’t see it’s a high level tactic and they want to look high level, then you obviously aren’t doing it right. Either that, or your fighting a player you refuse to give credit to.
If someone’s beating your tactic, change it up and give props where it’s due.
because both can be punished on reaction, its better that he forget those, or he knows better and pretend to be weak again like he was with Rufus vs Ryu match.
all the “oooooh” I kept hearing during the Marn vs Daigo MM made lol so much 
Yeah I’m not saying he should have been spamming those moves, but how could he really forget about them?
Just seems odd to me that he would really forget about any moves…
Daigo is like Fedor
Maybe the pressure of being on Stage at evo 2009 with over 20,000 People watching you? The fact that he was in the Finals against his Rival Daigo Umehara on stage with over 20,000 people watching you?
The fact that he was under the pressure of being on stage at evo 2009 with over 20,00 people watching him, while playing against his Rival Daigo, and switching to a character he hasn’t played in a while in the most important SF4 match he’s ever played?
That’s like saying “I forgot how to ride my bike during Tour De France because the guy who always places in 1st was there.”
I’ve never heard of a cyclist going “I forgot how to turn the handles because so many people were watching me!”
Enough with the excuses. Honestly, “forgetting” a move? If he said “I didn’t find that move useful” or “I thought I’d get punished”, then I’d buy it.
Wow this thread is still going. Shit is old already.