Ok now Im developing a little more faith in frank, I don’t think he is gonna be like bullshit top tier at any point, but thats not what I want in a character. He looks like loads of fun, and he seems like he will have the tools to compete which is all I ever ask for in a character. I might toss him on point in my storm/amateratsu team, pull of a 2 bar building combo, THC with hail storm and if shopping cart ends first I can get a few pics and levels in a basic combo.
I do see getting that first combo being a little difficult though, but then since all I need is 5 hits to make it to lvl 2 I don’t even need a combo, can catch someone with an assist, snap a pic and get lvl 2 asap. Im really looking forward to seeing how his play evolves with time.
Nova’s fully mashed “Inferno” does 79 hits, which is still enough for level four without drinking. Also Rocket Raccoon’s chaingun hyper does 69 hits when fully mashed. Either way, Frank is definitely going in a second slot.
After seeing the Frank-on-point, THC thing Max demonstrated in his Assist Me video, I compiled a list of characters with supers that might work. The idea is to see how high we can get Frank when spending just two meter instead of three. The collapsible/spoiler-tagged list below features every Hyper I can think of that lasts a long time and does a meaningful number of hits, so that Frank can do the THC with just two meter. Also included which Assist has to be chosen to get the move in question. This list may have errors, I cannot test it at this time since I don’t have UMvC3 presently. Some of the moves below may not last long enough to get a camera shot in even with drinking omitted.
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Ghost Rider, Hellfire Maelstrom via unknown Assist.
Iron Fist, either level 1 Super via unknown Assist.
Nova, Power of the Nova Force via unknown Assist.
Rocket Raccoon, Rock and Roll via unknown Assist.
Sentinel, Plasma Storm via Rocket Punch.
Storm, Hail Storm via Whirlwind.
Super Skrull, Inferno via Stone Smite or Orbital Grudge.
Taskmaster, Legion Arrow L+M ver. via Aim Master L (Horizontal Arrows).
Amaterasu, Okami Shuffle via any Assist.
Arthur, Goddess’ Bracelet via any Assist.
Chris, Sweep Combo via Combination Punch.
Dante, Million Dollars via any Assist.
Morrigan, Finishing Shower via Soul Fist or Harmonizer.
Ryu, Shinkuu Tatsumaki via Shoryuken or Tatsumaki Senpu Kyaku.
Trish, Round Harvest via either Trick or Maximum Voltage via Low Voltage.
Wright, “Steel Samurai: Maya Smelting” via unknown Assist. Unsure if it does enough hits or lasts long enough.
Vergil, Dimension Slash via unknown Assist.
Zero, Rekkoha via any Assist.[/details]
Frank West looks good in Lvl3 and after. I didn’t expect those combos to do that much damage… but I’m glad it does, since you have to level up. The servbot super sounds pretty damaging and you can combo after, which is good too.
At first, I thought Lvl4 Frank would have a Hsien-ko “feel” to it, because of its multi-hitting normals, but he sounds more like Zero when he’s at that level. It looks like he can be a very good character in the right hands.
BTW, I’ll say this before anyone does: Frank summons zombies better than MvC2 Jill does.
Mm… I wonder, can anyone legitimately (e.g. with a copy they legally/rightly have and can speak about their experiences with) test the above supers on a level 2 THC? E.g. Frank’s weapon cart rush + that one character’s THC, to perhaps help narrow down which ones work? Max’s Assist Me video suggests most such combos should start with either j.S or a ground-bounce move of some kind… and I can’t help but wonder if OTG Camera xx THC would work too.
As i told u guys, clearly from watching assist me u guys can see that frank is a normal character but not point worthy. Yea u can put him point and fight up to get those lvls and be creative about it, but to me its looking more and more like to much of a risk to have him point and risk getting hit. And if ur building your team around him it would make much more sense to bring him in at lvl 4 seeing how lvl 5 is not really worth it imo if u can’t get that many hits with ur point character with i know could happen with a point like chun li, dante with mashed super after a combo.
So say if u have a point character let us say Dante, alot more mobile than frank at lvl 1 and can get in when he wants and zone a little, not saying frank can’t do it at lvl1 but not even close as Dante. U do a Dante combo mash super etc most likely at 70-80 hits dhc in cart (unknown) if u can camera after lvl 1 cart super, camera shot after super lvl 4. Now Frank is point and Dante assist and wat ever other assist helps frank mix up, resets, combo extender, get it etc…
I still can’t believe that a camera shot works after a cart super, even when wildvine said that it worked. Hardly any time to take the pic, since the opponent is back on his feet in no time.