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I thought there were a few people who didn’t have 3. Don’t Charlie and Guile fit this mold as well? If that’s the case I’ll do the final result later (as if anyone cares) when it’s sorted out how many people don’t actually have 3 full assists.

edit: actually I’m even off beyond that because 56^3*3 isn’t correct. iIt’s actually FAR MORE!

… I’m about to head home (Currently I’m in the learning assistance center as I work as a math tutor… (go figure) I’ll think about the best way to do this on the way home… I’m intrigued by this)

Or, to put it another way:

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I think they are the same team technically. My requirement is that, unless if you have to go all the way back to the char select screen to change something, then it’s the same. Switching out who’s on point first at the versus screen is still the same team (even if it retarded to have Doom on point in a Strider/Doom team).

With order assumed as irrelevant, according to my probably wrong math:

56! / 3!(56-3!) = 27,720 possible character combinations. If there are 27 assist combinations per team (AAA, AAB, ABC, CBA, etc.), then that’s 27,720*27 = 748,440 possible teams.

I think…

Naw it’s more complex than that I’ll do the method in my head on the way home and get you an answer when I get there in about an hour though.

One character will always remain stationary in a team, meaning that if you pick mag/storm/sent and move, say magneto and storm, you cannot move sentinel without restarting the game or switching out after the match begins.

I would say this has a pretty significant bearing on assist and DHC placement, and as such would warrant not being the same team for mathematical purposes.

I never learnd math. I wish I would had finished high school and get into college and got smart like all you guys.

Thank god for mahvel and Magneto at my side with his backhand snapping fools one qcf a2 at a time.

yes this will get you a high paying job in the future

I’m pretty sure he was joking:rolleyes:

QFT

You LAUGH when you play against a Mag/Psylocke/Strom or Psylocke/Storm/Magnerto. You COWER when you play against Mag/Storm/Psyclock. :smile:

And Psylocke-A is a “little” better than Psylocke-Y assist.

you smart ass, nigga. lol

all this math shit makes my head explode

Okay so for anyone that actually gives a damn (and how could I blame you if you don’t?) here’s the total number of combinations and how to figure them out. (Of course you can skip down to the end if you just want a number)

First let me say every calculation I’ve done thus far has been off. Even the whole 565554 thing was off. EC was right, without taking assists into account you have 27,720 character combinations.

First of all this calculation is based on the DC version where you can double and triple select the same player.

I’m going to agree with EC and say that Strider, Doom, Sent. Is the same as Sent, Doom, Strider.

The dominant term will be [56!/( 3!(56-3!))]. This accounts for each unique team (assists will be factored in later)

For those of you familiar with basic stats or know the term “Binomial Coefficient” you’ll recognize that that term only accounts for unique teams as when you say, “56 choose 3” you’re not replacing each one of your choices. Therefore you have to add on the two remaining cases

Case I.

Double picking. If I pick character #1, but choose to double up on #2 and #3 there are 56 characters I can select for #1, but only 55 remaining for my second choices. So there are simply 56*55 cases of double picking.

Case II.

Triple picking. This is easy. There are 56.

Assists.

Now let’s factor in assists. There are 3^3 = 3*3 =27 ways to pick them. i.e. AAA AAB, AAC etc.

So to start we’ll take:

([56!/( 3!(56-3!))] + 56*55 + 56) *27 = 831,656

But wait

Multiplying everything by 27 isn’t quite right because the second and third factor clearly don’t have 27 unique assist combinations, and there are also Guile, Iceman, and Charlie to account for. To do this we now subtract off these terms

Subtraction Case I.

Double picking

Let’s say I pick Strider, Doom, Doom. Well Strider’s got 3 assits he’s free to pick from. Doom Doom however are going to eventually have to pick the same one. For this we only need to realize that A<->A, B<->B, and C<->C are not unique as would be the case for a team consisting of 3 unique players so in this case there are only 24 combinations and not 27 (. Which means we’ll have to take 831,656 - (56553) = 822416. This term is the term figured above for double picking minus the 3 double picked cases.

Subtraction Case II.

This one accounts for picking 3 of the same character. In this case there are 9 different combinations. So we do 822416-(56*9) = 821912

Subtraction Case III.

Iceman Guile and Charlie really fuck things over.

It’s best to do them one at a time. And I’M SHAKING MY FIST REALLY HARD at whomever brought up this exception, because it’s really tedious to incorperate, but for the sake of accuracy…

So you want to pick a team that only has Iceman OR Guile OR Charlie. After you pick one that leaves 53 characters and a team with only 18 unique assist combinations so you have 53!/(2!(53-2)! for the combinations of remaining team members *3(Charlie, Guile, Iceman) *9 (Initially these teams were counted as having 27 combinations of assists, but they actually have 18, so we’re subtracting off the 9 remaining). We’re now down to 747500 teams

You know… I’m going to stop myself here. I’m perfectly capable of finishing this post, but… right now I want to play some fucking SFIV, and I doubt anyone but me and possibly EC even gives a damn. If you want me to finish it you can post here or PM me, but until further notice I’m going to assume no one cares and leave it here.

Morrigan has a duplicate assist also.

Is there any current news when the full game will be downloadable? I tried the first game a few years ago at a friend’s and loved it. Two should be even better.

I would also like to see a three someday, but somebody told me that Capcom and Marvel got in some kind of a fight and that it’s not likely to happen. I’m not sure if it’s true, but I would love to have
Dante vs Black Panther
Amaterasu vs Phoenix and
Viewtiful Joe vs Spiderman.
A man can only dream.

Sometime in summer.

I dont know about anyone else but after this got announced i lost a lot of interest in SF4. I mean im ok in it but marvel is just my passion i guess

I need the two punch and kick buttons. =(

It’s hard for me to do their supers moves without them. I would be glad if they add them in. It can be optional. I notice there was no partner A+B button either.

I don’t know how bad this would be in Marvel 2, but dash macros could make this game stupid. I know it made Marvel 1 stupid, and it might be able to do the same with Marvel 2, but I don’t know this.

I pick her because she’s hot and her dash is crack.

You do realize that pros would have a fucking field day on your candy ass with Mag-fucking-neto and OBD.

**Gamefags **has the game to be released in Q3, now if i’m correct Q3 of a fiscal year is between April - June… maybe june release?

Depends on when they start their fiscal year. if it’s just regular calendar year Q3 would be july/aug/sept.