what the guy told me above when i asked this question really helped i do the regular version with all L’s. basically when you do it correct after the 2nd TK is going to pick them up higher so if u wanted to u would be able to jump and do a regular lighting. so since it picks up higher giving u some extra time to to charge the buster. so just wait for the clone lighting to hit and by that time your buster should be charged and that’ s when you would jump and continue the loop . if not then you just have to start charging it earlier
correct me if im understanding the situation wrong, but the situation im talking about is not that one, i mean after you do full 2 loops you have to option of activating sougenmu again to do 2 more as long as you have meter, after the 2nd sogenmu activation my buster charge doesn’t charge fast enough through the animation and i often miss the buster shot to go for a third loop
ohhhhhhhhh my bad i misunderstood you. all i can think of is when you input the lighting before sogenmu keep holding L meaning when you press L to input the motion keep holding it and when screen save finishes wait a split second and you should see the character get lifted a lil higher and or hear at that sound from your buster when its fully charged. try that
ps dont you think thats a lil over kill lol
yea but in some cases you need to spend the extra bar if your fighting like thor or tron sometimes i dont even get 1 mill of a full lightning loop i usually get around 966ish
Dunno, if they’re higher just do the raikousen loop slower. Personally I’m not a fan of doing really low raikousen loops, I prefer them to be higher off the ground so I have more time to charge buster.
Also take note of WHEN your buster actually charges, i.e. instead of shooting your uncharged buster- see how long it takes for it to go orange. That should be a good indication of where you’re screwing up on the 2nd loop. More often than not it’s just doing the loop too quickly.
oh okay, im finding its hard for me to do higher raikousen loops because of muscle memory maybe if i can correct the spacing the H version of the loop wont drop although it doesnt drop all that much
So for someone that is new to zero, is the basic combo where I should start out? spent the last 3+ hours learning the basic combo in the OP and I still can’t get it down. The lv.3 buster to dp.L part is super tough to get consistently by itself, let alone in a combo.
It’s corner only.
It works, but it can drop depending on the combo you did with mags earlier. If the hitstun deterioration is ramped up too much, Dive>Buster will miss
What’s a good combo for midscreen then?
Yeah it’s midscreen to corner, can be done corner to corner if you change lightning to L Hienkyaku then dash but that’s not beginner friendly at all.
Learn Jump Loop and
[don’t have a name for this combo so someone name it before I put it in the OP]
Requires you to be charging already:
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:h::f:+:h:,:s:,j:m: xx[ j.:dp:+:h: xx lv3 Buster,] (this is Buster cancelling i.e. you cancel the H Raikousen before it comes out by letting go of Buster) j.:qcf:+:m:, land, :h::f:+:h:,:s:,j.:h::s:
Video courtesy of DrewGrimey:
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And if you can’t do Jump Loop or that combo then drop Zero or just put in the work tbh…Or use an assist to help you OTG/ carry to the corner.
The easiest midscreen combo is probably magic series>launch>airmagic series>dive>ground buster>dash 5MH>launch>air magic series
^ I’d agree if it didn’t whiff on Ammy and a few other characters. Dive xx Air Buster dash works out a shitload more reliable for me.
Edit: Grimey Corner Carry added to OP.
Still trying to find a team… lately I’ve become interested in using Phoenix just for her uniqueness (plus I like the character herself) and I’ve read that Zero is a great meter builder for her. Therefore what is the best (meter build/damage) meterless combo to use with zero on a phoenix team? thanks
depending on who you have as 2nd. I suggest either Dante, Doom or Sentinel
**so im finding 50% of the time when doing the H raikousen loop the very last L lightning whifs any tips on that one? **
It whiffs because after you do L lightning L lightning H lightning lvl 3 buster <~~~ at this point you have to wait till your half way falling to shoot the buster. If you do the buster too early theyll be too high and whiff or if you do it too low obviously your next L lightning will drop. The lightning loops with the H lightning is harder to do consistently imo. I’m actually going back to doing it the regular way since I have a better understanding as to why I don’t get the level 3 buster after 2 L lightnings.
yea i was thinking of switching too
Odd, can’t say I’ve come across that whiffing problem at all =/
BTW just wondering have any of you guys tried using M Raikousen instead?
its easier but you get less lightnings, its like the “fraud version” of LLs.
You can also end the combo with shockwave from a distance and DHC into Sougenmu > instant TK Raikouzen and you still get it but it’s very hard. Most of Magneto’s decent combos let you pick up afterwards with the OTG though.