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Good stuff, thanks. He baited a lot and did a bunch of interesting things. Always nice to see good Dan players in action.
clearly only a master in the way of Saikyo can tame “The Beast”
meaty LK Dan kick was nice.
Imo it’s kinda sad how dudley is almost fully dependable of how well he does on his adversary wake up (the rest of the cast do jumpins on wakeup) he seriously need better pokes so you don’t have to eat wake up ultras and dp’s while trying to do an overhead that youd been keeping to yourself like its a damn secret weapon, if he could be better with the other player standing, we wouldn’t need to take that much of a risk (we are forced to go for wake up stuff no luck on wake up no win).
Yo that makes no sense.
Dudley has some really easy safe jump setups, so the only thing that he doesn’t have is a crossup.
lol meaty thunder bolt cross up
yo please share some! Im not trying to call you out or anything, that’s just one of my biggest weaknesses with Dudley. All my setups are like “psuedo” meaning they can reversal but hopefully they cant tell and block lol.
dudley is almost the same as his 3s counterpart aside from the fact is that the game engine is not 3s strike. he’s a good character but he has to work to get in and that’s tough for him in many match-ups and against hit n run characters as well.
it’s funny how he has to rushdown but doesn’t have a “get out” option himself example would be like ryu using air hurricane kick to escape the corner or bison using bison warp,so when ur getting rundown playing as dudley u gotta sit and block IMHO. he can win but players say your need a back up character for sure. from what I’ve seen even marn switches to a better character and correct if I’m wrong on that statement but anyway he can win but his chances are slim but it can be done
dudley is almost the same as his 3s counterpart aside from the fact is that the game engine is not 3s strike. he’s a good character but he has to work to get in and that’s tough for him in many match-ups and against hit n run characters as well.
it’s funny how he has to rushdown but doesn’t have a “get out” option himself example would be like ryu using air hurricane kick to escape the corner or bison using bison warp,so when ur getting rundown playing as dudley u gotta sit and block IMHO. he can win but players say your need a back up character for sure. from what I’ve seen even marn switches to a better character and correct if I’m wrong on that statement but anyway he can win but his chances are slim but it can be done
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dudley gets beat by normals, can’t do s**** about it, gets a knockdown, he is forced to go for meaty stuff on wakeup because he can’t keep up with his own normals, eat a shoryuken in the face because the other player knows you need to go low or high or there is no damage because while standing he wins, ryu dashes, dudley cry that didn’t got any damage on ryu’s wake up…
that is what I said, get a chun-li player to take you to 70% with her normals, you gonna let her stand again and do nothing about it and lose +30% again? nah… you are going for an overhead a low attack a throw a anti backdash… and it will get stuffed by a ex bird kick.
fix dudley normals, no need to be that ridiculously ofensive at all times… Adon for example is seriously ofensive but he do it all while standing, he gets a knockdown he is clean to go for a safe cross up too keep the pressure, a dudley player on the other hand is forced to get damage on wakeup, all of those punishable by good reversals, or even ultras…
Then bait the Shoryu?
Punishing a blocked/whiffed Shoryu is over 1/3 of someone’s life.
Of course Dudley doesn’t have 100% safe mixup options, but that shouldn’t stop you.
Look at Abel, Shoryu beats about every single mixup he has, but does that stop him? No.
It’s really just about learning to bait.
Anything that is a 3 frame reversal, do a late crouch tech if you want to be safe.
Anythign that is 5 frames or more, you can meaty them all day and be safe as houses. NO ONE can pressure shotos with 3 frame reversals on wake up. Dudley is no different. But everyone else, you can pressure the hell out of thhem. Dudley has a shit ton of safe jump option selects for every character. Hell, you can even do meaty OS with f+MK~Ultra.
You just need frame perfect execution to play him. Wait til you see the Japs get at him in arcades. You’ll see them prison rape characters on knock down.
I’m not crying lol, I bait dps and throws all the time (tho the smart ones figure this on time and go for back dashes on techable knockdowns) just saying that when you score a knockdown on a chararacter that is hard to, there is way more chance that you HAVE to go for something, people read that, see you get frustrated while beeing zoned by normals…
And yeah, the japanese will pull awesome stuff I’m pretty sure, but Im still waiting for a patch making his normals better hehehehe.
His normals being better won’t make you able to pressure shotos.
His normals are fine.
eh you obviouusly have no good advice to share, shouldnt have got my hopes up
Ugh! What is the point of this thread? Dudley is exactly how they wanted him. Solid. None of the new characters they put in are high tier.
Ibuki has been generally regarded as the best of the new characters and she is high mid tier at best. Things may change but as it it stands this
is how it is. He plays pretty close to his 3rd strike counter part. He’s not as dominant as he was but none of them are. By them I mean every
new character pretty much. Anyway I play the character because I like him (no homo). Not because of tiers, how much of uphill battle it is,
or how difficult it s to win in my scene. To each his own but I don’t understand it.
Hope I don’t ruffle any feathers.
You can ruffle my feathers (no homo).
But seriously, yeah, none of the new SSF4 characters are “great”. Game is still dominated by the SF4 arcade cast. They played it safe with the new additions, and Dudley has the same weaknesses from 3S which is annoying because there’s no parry and a handful of characters who excel where Dudley is weak.
There was a thread called “How to Make Dudley Top Tier.” Its now degenerated into worthless dribble.
I never cared about him being top tier. But I thought I could give some suggestions on sensible buffs.
I said give his cr mk similar properties to boxers cr hk start up wise.
It would negate his biggest weakness, mid range low poke counter, without making him stupidly overpowered.
Regardless I’m fine with my main having flaws. It gives us more dignity when we win.
overall dudley is a good character but he has really bad match ups against most of the best characters in the game example would be honda barlog and chun but you can still win tho you just gotta have great fundamentals.