Though in Tiamiat’s guide it is true that Akuma isn’t a mindless killer, that might be one of their little joke concept art images, like Chunners playing basketball and the Alpha Ryu, Ken and Chun-Li (?) getting hugged by the older versions.
Akuma/Gouki is Dan’s father. Just check out MvSF’s ending for Dan, lol.
(I know… it was a gag ending… )
Also it is to my understanding that the US version of the SFA movie has a lot of footage omitted from it that the JPN version had. (including an actual fight scene with Akuma/Gouki) Also the Japanese SFZ (Zero is Alpha in japan) anime was a 2 part ova series, and for the US version they just combined the 2 separate parts and called it a ‘movie’.
Part of the reason why SFA the movie sucked so much (IMO) was because it was hacked up.
I’m sure Capcom USA took the liberty to up Akuma’s evil image.
I have the PAL version of the DVD (UK) and with that description I believe it to be the same as the US version, it’s all bundled in one dose. There wasn’t really a fight scene between Ryu and Akuma though, not really there was a meeting and the beginning of a fight at the end, presumably setting the stage for Alpha 2.
Psychosquall - The only thing combining the two OVAs into a Movie for the US omited was a still black and white picture of Ryu shown after the credits of the first part. And that’s it. The American version doesn’t omit any of the story, blood, violence, etc. They did not omit a fight scene between Gouki and Ryu, what you saw was what you got, at the end of the Anime. I have both versions. Your source is a liar.
However, the US SF2 Animated Movie is missing footage from the original Japanese version. Even the unedited version shortens Chun-Li’s shower scene. And if your not watching it letter boxed (In Japan all versions of the movie are letter boxed, this movie CAN NOT be watched to fit your TV screen) you get to see a very cheesey scene where the camera shifts to fit Ryu and Ken on the screen and you get to miss Gouki’s cameo.
Yes.
The ending is up to the veiwer to decide, its just in an interview with the director he had to basicly explain the situation with Shun cause it left everyone so confused.
And yeah, I have the Eva Perfect Collection, and two movies (but now I want the Platnium Collection considering how much better they are then the ones I have. Although I wonder if they’ll do Platnium versions of the movies as well)
That picture was a parody, it wasnt meant to be taken seriously. Bengus drew it as a parody of the scene in the SF2 anime where Akuma is sitting on the side of the road.
They made Sakura weak in favor of Shun. That should tell you how bad it is.
Actually, if you ask me, Zangief whooped Shun’s ass pretty bad. He kinda roughed Ryu up a bit too.
Very very unlikely unless ADV can get the movie licenses away from Manga Entertainment.
TAS that drawing is NOT a parody, look at the context in which it appears in the book. It appears in the character illustration gallery, the same section that aludes to the relationship between rose and bison, charlie and guile, adon and eagle, etc. You would have a better arguement if it appeared in the special illustration gallery, beside it doesn’t really strike me as funny at all. It is not parodying the SF 2 movie, it is referencing and expanding on it as a backstory.
I think you’ll find that is a parody, that section isn’t just about art focused on the plot, it’s just general art towards that character. Maybe you hadn’t noticed but Eternal Challenge is filled with “joke” illustrations.
So mbthomas, do you now believe that Akuma goes selling fruit in the streets? He’s a man consumed by Dark Hadou whose only lust is to fight strong opponents and to keep perfecting his own style.
NO!
Bengus did a series of pics for SFA2, they are drawn in an oval with a white fade around the edge. The ones in this collection I can remember off the top of my head are…
- Ryu
- Chun Li
- Sakura
- Rose with Bison’s Hat
- Rose & Bison
- Charlie & Guile
- Ken & Eliza
- Guy & Cody
- Sodom & Poison
- Adon & Eagle
- Gen & Chun Li
- Akuma & Boy
And the book dosnt even have all the pictures in the series together, and its in more then one Capcom book, so that reason of yours is flawed.
Thats cause you dont know about the relationship between the SFA series and the SF2 movie. And I didnt mean to say parody, its more of a tribute kinda parody type deal.
The single frame in which Akuma appears in the SF2 anime he’s sitting down against a wall, and it lloks as if he’s selling something by the side of the road (hmmm that sounds an awful lot like a picture Ive seen of Akuma)
Then there’s the fact that the SFA series was inspired by the SF2 anime, ie the SFA series wouldnt exist if it werent for SF2: The Animated Movie. There are lots of tributes the SF2 anime all throughout the SFA series, like the grassy feilds secret stage, Ryu and Ken’s fist tap intro, Ken giving his headband to Ryu, the muscular Bison, brainwashed Ken, etc, etc, and its no suprise that a piece of SFA artwork is a tribute to the movie as well.
I think you’ll find Mr. Thomas is correct. Forgeting eternal, the artwork came out as a set. The other pictures along with the Akuma one, are all part of one set. There is another set that contains mess about pictures and this isn’t part of that (please correct me if I am wrong on this).
I think this makes sence as Akuma may need to make money time to time for various reasons. Sure hes got the dark hadou, but does he have Prada?
Mohammed Ali
Read above.
There’s never been any refrence to Akuma needing money. If you look at the frame from the SF2 anime and the SFA artwork with Akuma its easy to tell they are connected.
I know, a lot of SFA was based on SF Animated, so it might be trying to show a little more to Akuma. At the end of the day it doen’t really matter, but the fact it is in a realistic pic, I think it is true. Something for the individual to deside if people are having troubles accepting Akumas citric secrets :lol:
Mohammed Ali
I think you have missed the point. I am well aware that it draws from the sf 2 anime. That’s not my point. My point is that it integrates it into his storyline.
What I am saying is that ALL these relationships in the Bengus collection are accepted under street fighter canon.
- Rose with Bison’s Hat
- Rose & Bison
- Charlie & Guile
- Ken & Eliza
- Guy & Cody
- Sodom & Poison
- Adon & Eagle
- Gen & Chun Li
Now I am arguing that the picture we are talking about
- Akuma & Boy(who I am certain is ryu)
is canon.
You’ve gotta consider the possibility that the picture may refer to a time when Akuma was no immersed in dark hadou and therefore this picture is quite plausible. In my opinion it references what Akuma was doing before he turned to the “dark” side, ie selling fruit.
Yes I’ve always thought that little boy was Ryu too!
Although I’m fairly certain that the picture is when Akuma was Satsui Hadoued, because of his appearance. He didn’t look like that before…
Alright then explain a few things to me…
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What the relationship, purpose, meaning, etc, of the Ryu pic, or the Sakura pic, or the Chun Li pic in the series? If ALL of them have some kinda meaning to the series what are there meanings? And you CANT say “oh they were just meant to be artwork or single shots” cause that completely deflates your theory that they all mean something or whatever.
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WTF is Akuma’s relationship to the boy then huh? Its OBVIOULSY not Ryu since he stayed with Gouken since he was a baby and the first time he ever left Gouken was SF1 (canon)
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What is exactly the canon of these pics, like explain to me the canon of of Bison shoving his hand into Rose, or Rose spinning Bison’s hat cause, Capcom nor Bengus knew what the story would be for SFA3 when those pics were done.
Yeah right. Akuma didnt look like that when he was younger or pre-Satsu No Hadou. He had black hair that hung in front of his face/eyes prior to submitting. The spikey red hair and red eyes came as a result of the Satsu No Hadou. Its how Bengus designed him.
1.) Not worth answering the single pictures… Gen knew Chun Li’s father, Sodom and Posion where apart of mad gear, guile and charlie were war vets together, Rose and Bison share a soul and perhaps trained together, guy and cody fought against crime together, eagle was hired by adon, to take out sagat, should i go on… HHMMMM There seems to be a pattern here
2.) You’ve got to be kinding me, it is that implausible for a young Ryu to go to a local japanese market and get some fruit for Gouken. It’s not like he’s travelling to Spain!. Does the quote…“Ryu, Ken you boys go get some water from the valley before breakfast, eh?” mean anything to you.
- There is a long documented History between Rose and Bison, that can be explored at any good character website. Inform yourself.
You people are searching for pots of gold that don’t exist. A lot of the illustrations were done with no more thought in mind than aesthetics and possibly to show a character in a different way.
Usually when a story is written it is the writer’s job to make the world convincing and to make the story plausible, but with Street Fighter no writer EVER existed so now the poor fans are taking the role of the writer, only they are only allowed to use what art and endings have been released and can not ommit anything or add anuthing new because the fans do not have the legal rights.
You are working the story in reverse. Rather than the creators starting first with a story and showing glimpses of events through illustrations, you are using the illustrations as pieces of a puzzle that were originally never designed to fit, and you are saying “Fit dammit!”
No offense buddy but if you think that the artwork is based purely on aesthetics than you must be conceptually and intellectually numb. If you seriously believe that there is no literal or implied message behind the artworks, than I’m afraid you just don’t get it. THAT IS WHAT ARTWORK IS ALL ABOUT!