Random shit;
New pages of Dragonball Multiverse. God damn, it’s getting real awesome/interesting.
New Animated Special will air online this month (Nov. 24). Fuck yes.
And another one of my fave eps/fights, in HQ Japanese for your pleasure.
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Piccolo vs Android 17 was awesome. The second time they fought right before Cell came to absorb him.
& Turles was what Goku would have been like if he had his saiyan mind back
It’s my second favorite fight, Piccolo was so on point until Cell came around. I just love the part where they both Alpha Countered each other.:karate:
what are the biggest dbz myths u ever heard as a kid.
my faves:
-dbz was done all in flash hence why u rarely saw round edges(this made total sense to me when i was 13 lol)
-ssj5 lol
-toriyama sold the rights of dragon ball series hence why we got gt.
That people could turn SSJ in real life.
I saw kids at school try it all the time. 
November 24th, you say?
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!!!:woot:
Thread deserves a bump since the DBZ Special is out.
Now onto character power level discussion. Up to the end of the Cell Games I think it’s pretty clear who’s stronger than who, but things get a little cloudy during the Buu Saga. Here’s a rankings list of who I believe to be the strongest characters during this time:
Vegetto
Super Buu + Goten, Trunks, Piccolo, Gohan
Super Buu + Gotenks, Piccolo
Gohan after power up aka Mystic Gohan
Super Buu + Goten, Trunks, Piccolo
SSJ3 Gotenks
Super Buu
Fat Buu (First Buu who showed up).
SSJ3 Goku
Kid Buu
Skinny/Evil Buu
SSJ2 Vegeta
Mr. Boo (The Good Buu who fights Kid Buu)
Reasoning: I put Fat Buu above Kid Buu because we never actually get to see Fatty fight at full strength whereas Kid Buu fought at full power the entire time. Hence why he’s referred to as the most dangerous. The Fat Buu (Mr. Boo) who fights Kid Buu is not the same Fat Buu who fought Vegeta/Goku on Earth and the one who killed Babidi. That Fat Buu separated into good and evil versions and as a result became a lot weaker.
As for Goku below Fat Buu. The dub had Goku say to Piccolo that he could’ve beaten Buu but wanted the kids to learn fusion and protect the Earth, but in the manga Goku just says he doesn’t think he would’ve won, even if he fought all out.
Vegeta’s above Mr. Boo because well, after getting his ass kicked numerous times, receiving subsequent heals as well as getting resurrected, I think Vegeta’s power had increased enough that he could have taken a weaker version of Fat Buu.
Does anyone know when the special will be translated into english ??
Oh yeah one thing that’s been bugging me, how old is Tarble supposed to be??
if he’s Vegeta’s younger brother shouldnt he been around Goku’s age ? It seems like he’s alot younger.
I think it’ll be a long time before the english va’s get a chance to shit on it. And Taberu probably seems really young cuz he’s super-short (he’s a runt, even compared to Vegeta), and not muscular (no fighting ability = doing nothing to develop his build, unlike the other saiya-jin, who got buff by fighting hard, taking lots of damage, and eating large amounts afterwards…extreme bodybuilding, I guess). Taberu was probably born weak and sickly, with low expectations for survival even to toddler stage. I bet the only reason he wasn’t killed in the cradle was because he was royalty. I would say he’s maybe 4 or so years younger (maybe even only 2 years younger). More than likely born quite a while before Freeza sent Vegeta on his final mission before destroying Planet Vegeta, since Vegeta had prior knowledge of his existence. Vegeta mentioned having to save his ass “just like always”, so I’ll guess he had to keep the other kids off Taberu’s ass.
i’d say goku was stronger but felt he might lose cos he didn’t have long in that form, if buu’s pwer actually decresed it would be another story
i dont remember anything indicating that fat buu got weaker when he split with evil buu BUT judging by kame and piccolo’s split i guess it did happen that way
and is this judging from the buu saga or the end of DBZ?? if it’s the end you may need to re arrange a few things
Not exactly an epic special, but it makes sense when you think about it. I’ve always wondered how they could keep finding stuff significantly stronger than Frieza if he ruled the universe forever. You’d think eventually that stuff would come down trying to kick everyone’s ass that Tien could take on by himself. He’s the strongest human and they’ve proven that the humans could take on the Ginyu force years ago.
Just goes to show how much of a train wreck/cluster fuck the Buu saga was.
Awesome new take on the opening, suited the ep much better than We Gotta Power would have done. It was good to hear the soundtrack again too.
I can’t believe there was so much Toriyama hate on Vegeta again though: I could handle most of it but having him actually bow to Tarble’s freaky-looking wife and say the honour was all his!?!
About that list…is that in order? Because Kid Buu is significantly stronger than that.
Kid Buu
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But yeah, the Buu saga was a mess.
Buu Saga. If it was end of DBZ I’d have Goku and Vegeta higher individually. Goku would be higher than Gohan, since Gohan stopped training. Vegeta I’d say would be on par with Fat Buu if not Super Buu.
I would make one edit to that list, Goku slightly above Fat Buu, or maybe equal. This is going by a line said by Goku late in the manga where he told Vegeta he could have beaten Fat Buu. Dunno how accurate the translation is but that’s what he said. Maybe Goku’s just saying that since he’s powered up since he first fought Fat Buu.
GC!? – But is Kid Buu stronger than Super Buu? Goku and Vegeta were confident they could take Kid Buu without fusing but Goku had admitted Super Buu was still stronger than the two of them. Underestimating Kid Buu due to his smaller stature? Goku and Vegeta are experienced enough not to judge someone by their size, I think they would’ve learned that after the Cell Juniors. The line you wrote was anime only. I don’t think that was ever said in the manga.
Kid Buu’s referred to as the most dangerous Buu but most dangerous doesn’t mean most powerful. Kid Buu fought recklessly and blew up planets without giving a seconds hesitation. Super Buu and his absorbed forms were intelligent and had pride. They held back their powers because they wanted the challenge of a fight.
The spirit bomb was deflected because Goku was tired after the fight. After his power was restored Goku only needed SS form 1 to finish off Kid Buu.
http://www.mangafox.com and http://www.mangashare.com has DB manga for you guys to read.
EDIT: http://www.mangavolume.com has DB manga as well. Mangashare’s site seems to be down.
That DB OVA Special was made of win. Vegeta REALLY mellowed out over the past two years. And I love how Goku & Vegeta’s rivalry extended to everything.
EVERYONE got a chance to show off! Yamcha and Krillin busted out in their old gi’s saving people. Stuff was great. And they were all calm and collected, not wetting themselves like during the Cell and Buu arcs. And the redone intro was enough to make me weep. So nostalgic.
excellent episode
i like how all the z fighters contributed. cant believe vegeta gets cheated at the end and goku saves the day yet again. LAME
btw, the whole saiyans get stronger after they get the shit kicked out of them seemed to have fallen off the wayside after frieza. vegeta kept getting the shit kicked out of him over and over again, but he did not get stronger. at least, they didnt make any mention of it whatsoever. i mean you’d think after vegeta got mauled by kid buu, dende could have healed him, and then he could have whooped on the kid.
I think Vegetto was prolly the strongest of the buu saga, goku/vegeta fused is too broken.
I forgot were I read it, but after becoming a Super Saiyan, that kind of gain (Zenkai(s)) were almost totally removed from their make up. The Super Saiyan form is almost like the end point of the Zenkai system. Of course, base forms still get stronger, but whatever boost they may have got from being healed from near death was either insignificant, or not present at all.
Then why did Goku power up so much after dying while fighting Frieza? The part I’m talking about is when he fell into the lava or whatever, then was resurrected by the dragon balls. This all happened while he was super saiyan, and I thought it was what allowed him to actually overpower Frieza. My memory is kind of fuzzy.