anyone try forward B in standstill then launch straight up with it? it looks fancy! lol
I usually don’t use it much until that point, so it should be at full power when I bust it out.
I use a hit an run strategy with Sonic. You MUST keep your spiny ass out of the opponents hands. Dash in, do some damage, dash out. Repeat.
sonic’s down tilt is the shit, just saying.
yes it is…i’ve been trying to put it into my game but when i’m fighting people like emblem online…I sometimes end up doing the down smash…if you do it at certain points it can combo into his up tilt and sometimes it causes people to trip…I believe someone mentioned it before.
Also on that jumping out of his forward b and looking fancy…It actually has some use…If you’re outside of the stage pretty far away and you actually remember because I have a hard time…rev up his down b…then immediately jump…you’ll do a reeeeally long distance jump. I don’t know what else this could be applied too but this will make it easier for sonic to get back on the stage. BEWARE…DO NOT…DO THIS TRICK IF YOU’VE ALREADY DONE YOUR SECOND JUMP…You will plummet to your death.
As for approaches you can do with sonic against most people you have these choices…this is just what I do so there may be different for other people
- Run right in and do his dash attack
pros: fairly quick, most of the time if you do it correctly you’ll recover behind the opponent…and can do a forward tilt/down tilt/reverse up tilt before they do anything else…doesn’t work for every character and it can catch people who roll backwards.
cons: If the person you’re fighting is really good…Sonic’s dash attack can be grabbed…just straight up…they can’t shield grab it from my experience so far but I’ve been grabbed out of it…especially if you’re fighting Olimar. If he knows you’re coming he can just send a pikmin out to snatch your ass up. Also if you do the dash wrong you could be in for some things…Ike turning around and hitting you with his a combo for example…also if the person is dodging all over the place…don’t expect to hit it and be prepared to block
- run in and throw
pros: a good alternative if the person is blocking all day because they’ve been getting tired of getting spun on all day. Sonic can retaliate with a throw from a good distance away because of his speed however…
cons: for some reason i think it doesn’t work as well as it should…maybe it’s a bit too slow but I haven’t perfected it myself in trying to make up for how fast sonic moves and what not.
- run…stop…run again
pros: provides a pretty good mixup if done correctly and can make the opponent swipe and claw at the air and to bait out attacks
cons: problem with this though is that if you’re still having trouble controlling the hedgehog…you may end up running a bit further than you had wanted and could get smacked in the face. Also be weary that the people that I’ve fought and done this too go into a attacking/dodging frenzy…choose when to go in carefully
- Run in and block
pros: you don’t get hit with attacks and you cancel your run right in their face…if they attack you…shield grab
cons: depending upon the character…the attack that they use may push sonic out of grabbing range…I’m still experimenting with this.
- Run and forward b just outside of their attack range
pros: you can do this juuuust within the opponents attack range and if you hold it long enough sonic will back out of it because as he’s revving he moves backwards…Also forward b is less likely to be retaliated against because sonic is just slightly off the air when he’s coming in…
cons: he can still be out prioritized…Meta knight’s spam a attack can nick him out of it…If you hold onto the attack too long they may end up surprising YOU and running in and grabbing you out of the spin…especially if they’re fast enough…
I hope this is helpful…>.>;
spring pursuit doesn’t always work…especially if the person you’re playing is looking for it, but it is good to use it.
Ill back this statement up. Ive just been trying to focus solely on his speed and its been helping alot, especially on 2v2 matches. Basically just doing everything I can to inflict damage then getting the hell outta there, then finding an unpredictable way to reapproach. In higher damage especially, his downward A smash is pretty good for knocking out peeps. One BIG thing that can really hurt Sonic’s game is anyone with a parry move. Wario has chomped my ass more times than I can count and with Ike its kind of a waiting game until his parry animation is over.
If this person that you were fighting wasn’t metknight or Ike…Metaknight can just fucking swipe all day as your coming up after him. I’ve also been having problems getting around Ike’s neutral a since it covers a wide area of him. the problem with spring at times though is that it only really works if the person isn’t DI’ing most of the time since Sonic can’t attack immediately after the spring and he has to wait until he’s 3/4’s of the way up you have to predict where the person is gonna go.
that’s why you should run in and block…unless it’s wario…blocking won’t save you from the bite. in FFA sonic’s not bad to use either because I’m often attacking all 3 people at the same time…so far i’ve found that this can get you in trouble when all 3 people start focusing on you X.X
but we can’t ‘hold on to what if’! >(
I wouldn’t mind fighting your sonic shadow…since I’ve already fought Zan’s. Sonic vs. Sonic matches hurt my head though X.X
Just quoting, cause well, I agree.
Sonic is fun as heaven. I feel the frustration on his ability to KO at lower percentages but I just can’t see him being a gimp in this roster.
Gotta put in my 0.02.
As far as I can see, right now, Sonic ain’t that good. My major complaint is his lack of spammable/finishing moves.
Now, when someone figures out how to abuse his speed and start putting together crazy-ass combos, maybe he’ll jump up in tiers.
Either someone masters his mad speed skillz or we give him a genei-jin, that’s the only thing that can help him improve.
This is all from videos I’ve watched. I’ve never actually touched the game. 
uh…spammable moves…he’s got plenty…And I can deal with the finishing moves he has. Like I said before i can deal with sonic being mid tier…it just means I have to work harder against the higher tier characters or…>.>…<.<…or die tryin.
Found some videos of a really nice Sonic.
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And more at http://www.allisbrawl.com/forum/topic.aspx?id=3284
I really want him to be good. I really do. :shake:
Notice the juggling game at about 2:15. Potential?
No spammable moves? D-tilt, b+air, f-air, u-air, n-air and f-tilt?
I don’t really see what’s so bad about him. The onl thing I don’t like about him so far is that he lacks a spike.
Play Snake, Pit, Metaknight or Marth then come back to Sonic then tell me what you think.
I’m really starting to think Sonic might require more technical skill, but that’s not a determinant of tier listings. I’m beginning to see quite a bit of potential with him. That first vid you posted above Hawk is evidence of some of his capabilities.
I kind of agree with EmblemLord though. When I play Snake I feel like I can be a little bit lazy and still hold favor. I mean I’m thinking a lot while I’m Snake, keeping up with spacing and mines can be daunting if your opponent plays certain ways. Though with Sonic, I feel like I have to be thinking as fast as he can move lol. Constantly trying to think a step or two ahead more than usual to keep pace and not lose my rhythm. That’s my take on how it feels though.
Have you ever fought a player that turtles Sonic?
Shit isn’t fun I gotta tell ya.
I don’t know when I’m going to be available to throw down with ya…My plate for college is about to spill over.
We’re (me, rioting soul, and el ninja(sperm) ) in my school lab right now recording matches so I’ll have some up of us playing soon if anyone is interested…
im going to try that homing attack under the stage thing next time I play lol…
I was able to post up a few of the matches I had…not all of them cause it was getting late…I’ll get to those later…They start up at the top of this page and go on to the first. Feel free to comment in any way that could be helpful that could improve my game a bit. Please criticize! I’m trying to not rush in all the time and stay calm now so I don’t run into random shit 60% of the time.
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?p=r&user=Sonichuman&page=2
Cool matches man, thanks for uploading. I don’t know enough to critique so I’ll leave that to someone else lol.