Is Sonic hot garbage?

Sonic can use his Up B to reach the top of the screen and KO at very low percents with Up air. I saw someone kill Marth at 40 percent on Corneria (very short ceiling) and Snake at 100 percent on Smashville (fairly high ceiling).

Side B and Down B can be jump canceled into aerial combos at any point, to rack up good damage.

He is limited nonetheless when it comes to killing moves, but he shouldn’t be used against the heavyweights. He’s better against fast characters that are lighter.

no no no…Sonic has problems with people with shit loads of priority and people who are slow with some fast moves that can take out light people quickly…Metaknight and Ike are touch as shit to fight but so far I’ve found sonic could probably run up in bowser’s grill all day.

So far the only thing I can think of to attack metaknight without being shanked to death all the time is to mix in a fast homing attack…especially if he’s spamming his regular attack all day…but trying to get around that caped ball of priority is a bitch…especially if they like to use their down smash a lot. If anyone has any better ideas of approaching metaknight please feel free to step in lol. I’m interested to hear strategies.

Also If you’re going to use homing attack and you want the homing attack to come out faster…mash on the special attack button…now that i’ve figured that out it feels a bit more useful

Face it, Brandon, your man is lukewarm garbage at his very best.

Deebo, as for you, stay outta Richmond or I’ll have my Olimar punk Kirby for his chain.

I been playing Sonic more and he isn’t good.

He just isn’t.

Brawl isn’t a combo game. It’s all about having fast high priority moves that are spammable and do decent damage.

Sonic doesn’t really have that. You also need a good approach move that has little lag and has good priority and zoning tools.

Sonics moves have little priority and when clanks with other attacks he tends to be at a disadvantage.

He can only be played in an aggro rushdown manner and Brawl doesn’t reward aggression at all. It rewards defensive play with powerful spacing moves.

Sonic doesn’t have that.

And his smashes suck. lol.

Also Sonichuman you asked why Wario can stomp Sonic.

Well Wario is just better then him. Better tilts and better smashes overall.

And move priority and wario can DI the hell outta his aerials. He can just do fade away Fairs all day and keep Sonic out.

oh wow…You’re talkin smack on here too now? Coming out of the closet finally eh?..and I mean that in BOTH ways. =D We don’t need to go into how a certain someone gets frustrated over the game to begin with whenever the hedgehog is all over Olimar.

His smashes sucking…yeah I can somehow agree with…but I deal with it anyway

And I’m hard headed…so you’re going to have to SHOW me…like you did with Ike and Metaknight…I’m sure you wouldn’t mind that would you?

I can’t show you.

I hate using wierd charaters.

lol. It’s a pet peeve of mine.

oh come onnnn! I need the experience! If it really is a bad match up I’m gonna have to know at least how to give wario hell!

But…But

Wario is so…UGLY!!!

UGH!!!

*Gazes upon the beauty of Pit, Ike, and Marth.

SO!? You know how I am…if you’re gonna make a claim about something that has to do with the hedgehog I gotta see it with my own eyes! Probably gonna have to wait till I get a new modem in this place cause…the current one is kinda ass and I’ve been stealing someone elses wireless whenever i’m at college…>.>…<.<…i mean it runs decent some times but nowhere near as good as when we had those matches this weekend when I was at my hose and you kicked my ass lol.

Lol Olimar? That lil bitch from pikmin? Lmao…you know he cant see kirby son. All he’s gonna do is hop is bitch ass back in the rocket ship and fly the fuck home. real talk…LOL!

Sonic is kinda weird because his movement speed is really fast but his overall attack speed is a bit slow when compared to the other characters. Not only are his attacks a bit slow but they don’t do much damage or knockback. At this point I consider him low tier.

Found out his homing attack is pretty good for sudden deaths unless the other person has parry attacks

…LOW TIER!?..At this point and time I’ll accept middle tier until I can un prove it other wise…but low tier I cannot accept >(.

Mid tier at best.

Most likely low tier.

I just don’t see anything sonic has to put him above low tier. His attacks are slow with low priority, damage, and knockback. He doesn’t have much in the way of combos so he can’t rack up damage well, and his KO potential is pretty mediocre. He isn’t great at edgeguarding since he doesn’t have any quick, long reaching attacks with good priority, and knockback that he can spam from on of the stage to keep the opponent out, or a good move to hit opponents on the ledge, he can’t even jump off the stage and continue to combo without risk of killing himself. His recovery is also pretty average, and his UpB can’t sweetspot ledges. So honestly, I can’t even see Sonic being at mid tier.

The best characters in the previous games usually didn’t have too much in the reach and priority department.

His up b doesn’t need to sweet spot edges because you can do attacks out of it. Stutter stepping increases the range of his foward smash to a distance higher than Marth’s.

His bair works alot like a space animal bair. (I.E., a good edge guard move with big knock back) It also can be easily short hopped.

Up tilt is great for combos and KOs. Dash attack is a good combo starter…

Down tilt is really good, works like Lucas’.

Yeah, uh, dont agree at all. Especially with the statement on his attacks being slow. I actually find that absurd. His only moves that really come out slow are his froward smash (but it fucking hurts) and his dair. I’d say he’s at LEAST mid tier material.

Fixed.

Sonic can rush down those hammers like nothing.

Further proof that the SWF people going “Well Brawl is enough like Melee to compare them directly!!!” are flat out wrong. A character as fast as Sonic is in Melee would’ve been godlike.

lol shiek.

Sonic with items on is ok.

But Metaknight or Marth with items is just…

It should be illegal ok?

That’s how disgusting it is.

Also tiers are with items off.

Very hard to tier with items on since you never know what will happen.

The most you can say is,“Oh this character will get the items faster since they are so fast.”

I mean the fact that Sonic NEEDS items to be viable says alot about him.