This makes sense for Yang, but Duds? I feel like Dudley’s footsies are more… uhh… Just zoning pressure techniques than actual footsies. I mean, his c.mp and c.hk are lethal, and that fucking s.hk is on par with Chun Li level bullshit… Maybe I just need more experience with Dudley… And Urien for that matter. As a Yang player though, you’re right - Until his ass has a meter, he just eats shit all day.
Outside of Japanese matches, I’ve yet to see some really impressive USA Yangs, beating Ken up though… Dudley, on the other hand, I cannot speak of.
I feel like a good Dudley can just bully the shit out of you. That’s what he does best. He doesn’t need a low forward into Super, he can just force you to crouch and land fHK into SA3 and then Rose shenanigans on wakeup.
You know… mentioning that… You’re damn right. He’s a bitch ass to parry your way out of too.
I’ve been saying that Ken thing that you mentioned forever now… He’s an easy character to use, has an easy crossup, and nothing hard to execute other than the kara dp combo. The rest of him is hit confirm x-attack into his super and play footsies games. Low execution barrier means you can spend a lot more time working on your actual gameplay.
EDIT: Thing about Urien… I think I just jump on RX’s dick too much. There was a time a few years ago when I would argue that Q’s top tier because of Kuroda… Yeah, I was THAT guy.
Like 90% of urien players are either ‘guess on everything so I can get crouching fierce and do combo videos’ or ‘stay full screen away and throw fireballs.’ he seems more difficult to play as a complete character. Requires some chops.
Don’t bring that here. People might look that schwarbage up!
We should ask him about “fighting in a phonebooth” with that Marvel 3 now.
Urien is the most fun to watch in person, but playing vs NGMarc, fun? Hell no!
I also fanboy about it since my lil bro Urien main isn’t around to.
"I looked him up, he’s not that good…"
Y.J.D.K. lil bro, RX fan.
Well we can discuss tiers until we grow white beards. But the fact is if you eat a confirm into super from almost all of the cast that’s 40% of your hp gone and a hard knock down. If you get grabbed by makoto near the corner your dead, if you jump gouki owns you, if ryu knocks you down you get stunned, if yun lands sa3 your in the corner and you are down 50%, when chun has a super you lose 50% , when hugo corners you your in deep shit, yang knocks you down with no hitcofirm and almost no risk and its time to guess, you eat a bnb from alex that’s 40% down, dudley gets you in the corner means your whole body is covered in shit, ibuki knocks you down near the corner 30% gone and hf defending.
Of course nothing is set in stone but what i’m trying to say is that every char in this game except sean and 12 have a chance of winning at any given time in the match.
I was fighting a Sean once and got 60% of my life gone on one confirm… That was sad.
Good Sean player though.
editing this whole post! all new post to be more helpful. I’ll expand on what I sent you a message on over XBL.
when you wakeup with high or low parry, you are taking a huge risk. yeah you can say “I’m good at reading people” but in actuality you are risking taking a lot of damage. any time you guess forward on wakeup against Chun for instance, you are saying “please low forward SA2 me.” or your random anti air grabs. I can understand why you’d do that (you see the other guy jumping at you a lot to avoid Hugo’s good ground buttons) but if can be punished if they never jumped and are far enough away, sometimes with a huge punish. and it loses to a lot of stuff in the air outright anyway. I think I remember you throwing out random anti air grabs that just whiffed because I never jumped.
in general I think you take a lot of risks for a risk/reward tradeoff that isn’t worth it. this is why you lose to the high tier characters. yeah some are bad matchups, but when you go “wakeup guess forward, hope it hits so I can SA1 or 360 them” and you get tagged with low forward into super you can only blame yourself and not the matchup.
let’s finish our set or play a longer one. I play a few different characters and will mess with any of them if you really hate playing against Chun that much. but she’s also a great character to underline the “don’t guess on wakeup” advice since she can confirm off high and low attacks and do huge damage. she especially makes guessing not worth it in that situation.
Online has a lack of communication. Even on your inputs, or especially so.
Having been a part of too many word fights, public forum edition spilling out into here, let me intervene to fix it or just end it right here.
Artayes 50 - 0 everybody else.
-You’re gonna carry that L
-Get some more experience
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I always get hit by wakeup LK BACKBREAK
yeah you’re right. let me modify my tone on that post a bit. I can definitely do that more pleasantly and more helpfully.
Yeah, but he also posted that stupid article about 3rd Strike that scrubs love to spam as a “legit” argument regarding the parry system reducing the game and footsies. Which really is crap. So I have a hard time stomaching anything he says.
I look at that and think, if I love this game and the engine why not pick the character I love! Regardless of tier ranking.
What I’m really trying to say is…
Q for life!
ya honestly who cares about intellectualizing your character choice, that shit drives me nuts. motherfuckers act like picking a character is like shopping for a house
omfg, thank you, pherai. quoted for truth. people put too much water into “character loyalty” and the like. It’s a fucking game and no big deal. I dont respect “character specialist” unless you win. All I respect is the V, C, or S on the screen. Nothing else.
“this game is about winning, If you had the option of a 1) Big dick or 2) a small dick, would you choose 2 because it took more skill? Thought not”
-Bokkin
i dont agree with your quote.
d3vs quote is also kind of funny. i’m sure people tell themselves and others shit like that.
when you need to explain your internal logic to people you have some kind of conflict.
i play remy because i like playing him.
guys like TM and Pierrot are just unknowns then? or are they people who are honest with themselves and more interested in playing the way that interests them than the way that gives them a little higher win percentage.
if all you respect is a win you’re a loser. i think you just said that to sound cool. i don’t know anyone who doesn’t recognize and appreciate other players skills even if they don’t consistently do that well.
wo chang gen wode pengyou shuo guanyu 3rd strike ye xue 3rd strike. xiexie pengyoumen!
I think that you misunderstood pherai post, he is talking about intellectualizing your choices, he is not talking about if you choose your main because he is a top tier or whatever, but being overanalityc of why you should pick a over b.
Saying that, i think that there is nothing wrong with that, people have different reasons of why they choose their characters, some because they like to increase their chances of winning, so they choose a strong characters, others because they like a character specifically despite its tier placement, and other because they enjoy that particular gameplay style.
Imo a person who puts his efforts on learning a character because he likes it and push the strategies and tactics with it to the limit deserves my respect, so what if he doesn’t wins consistently as long as he plays the character he really likes it and enjoy fighting with him/her despite the odds
People need to remember that Viscant was a tournament level A-Bison/V-Vega player at one point. He essentially pioneered the flying turtle troll technique ten years before SFIV standardised such play. No wonder 3s left him perpetually shaken.
You could say that again.
Small dick has sex the most. You don’t believe me? Look at the two biggest populations in the whole world!
-Russell Peters, paraphrased
This has been another episode of the 3s penis forum.
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Also this one was for saikyo dojo, character choices and pherai even saying why he picked that Akuma I forgot to put up back there
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And when you’re better than them with Hugo, you’re clearly better than them, OP probably didn’t see this one.
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Or it could be one guy with a big dick doing a whole lot of fucking.