like they instantly assume a character is garbage or won’t be seen at a tournament
just because they’re not that high on the tier list
if you ask me
tier lists have sorta destroyed fighting games
because You’ll have people now a days who look at tier lists and instantly decide to main Whoever is at the top
you won’t have people using characters that aren’t near the top because they’re low tier or not even worth using to the average tournament player
i imagine without tier lists
there would be a lot more originallity
but i guess being uncreative and running with the pack is the in thing in modern times
Well it’s a bit of both. The more people play as a character, the more will be discovered about that character and so the more likely they are to be considered a high tier. So in that sense what Pimp Will says is true. The problem is that a lot of people make their decision on who to main based on tier lists, so you get situations like how Makoto was considered a pretty weak fighter in SF3 and no one played as her. It took a few guys to ignore the tier lists and discover things about her before it was apparent how good she actually was. Then as she was considered higher tier, loads of people jumped on board the bandwagon and started playing as her (thus improving her game further).
So a tier list is fine as a sort of measurement of popularity or knowledge about the character capabilities, the problem is that many people use it as a priority list of who to play as, to the point that they’ll totally ignore lower tiered characters and guarantee that they’ll stay lower tiered since no one is really experimenting with them.
yeah like pimp willy said, tiers are more the explanation for the character selections, not the cause. if tiers didnt exist people would still pick their shotos and do their hadoken “zoning” (since spamming is like the buzzword here -_-) and shoryukens until the cows came home.
I knew from the nanosecond i saw the way you write that you were going to be a complete idiot. There are people who ask questions to aid their thought, then there’s dumbasses like you who ask questions to aid their quest to get everyone else to do their thinking for them. Go back you your fluffy cloud, perched atop a rainbow, and have fun with Imagination Fighter, where no char has any concrete attributes or movesets and WHEEEEEEEEEE UNICORNS!
Some games are insanely unbalanced that choosing a low tier is beyond frustrating. A casual glance at a list might relieve some frustrating starting points.
My take on fighting games, esp SF4 & SSF4…
My biggest grip would be the hit boxes. Not only some moves favor a character, but faulty hit boxes (to me) are really killing these games and creating God Tiers biased on imperfection.
LOL, na i think he meant as an example, in street fighter 4- if you fought a sagat and you used someone like sakura for example. that can be an excuse.
Tiers exist just for arguments on message boards. For the most part people pick a character that suits them regardless of tier. They come on here to complain about their low tier character being screwed over or defend their high tier character’s tools.
It is silly (and wrongheaded) to claim tiers don’t exit in fighting games, just as it is silly (and wrongheaded) to allow them to influence your character choice.
I used Sakura in SF4 and now I use Juri in SSFIV.
I didn’t really hear about tiers until SSFIV but i’m not gonna let anything like that stop me from playing the characters I like.
Tiers are a form of information about the game, and that information can be useful. It can show you where you might be finding your problem matches in a tournament so you can work on those. If you’re newer to a game, it can give you some insight into how the game plays (for example, if I were new to SF4 and took at look at the tier list, seeing both Sagat and Ryu in the top tier might give me some idea of how important zoning is within the context of the game), and along with other information such as matchup charts and such, it can give you some ideas as to where a character’s weaknesses are. Obviously a tier list by itself doesn’t mean a whole lot; it’s pretty much the same as arguing over which city’s baseball team is the best this year. You can reason out which team has the strongest elements; that sure doesn’t mean they’re guaranteed to win though. As a piece of information among many others though, it’s a handy tool.
A tierlist is a representation of the path of least resistance. Of course, most players, pinnacles of strategy and execution that they are, cannot possibly fathom the existence of such a thing.