As if his loose ass booty hole could please anyone that wasn’t King Kong.
The denial in this thread is profound. No matter how much irrefutable proof is posted showing how spanking has negative consequences, people still keep ignoring it.
Listen everybody, “I got spanked and turned out ok” is not proof spanking is good. It’s funny that one side has all the proof, And the other side only has logical fallacies. Your opinion that spanking is good means jack shit when there is proof to the contrary and you have squat to back it up.
Maury Povich is all the proof you will ever need
You kidding? I can guarantee those kids were abused in one way or another, there’s not a kid on this planet that acts out like that simply because they weren’t spanked.
Post numbers #23 #30 and #31 got my crying… Oh man… this thread XD
Its ok to hit your kids. Especially if they are being bad asses. Sometimes they need to be punished…
I think its funny in one of those studies it goes on to say that spanking can lead to mental issues such as anxiety, depression and drug and alcohol abuse. Fuck man, I have all those problems. I was never spanked. Those lame ass studies dont prove shit.
Yeah, I suppose I spank my kids because I dont want them to turn out like me or be anything like I was when I was a kid. Grounding me, takin’ my nintendo away, takin’ the tv away, having a talk, etc., etc. just didnt work. I was still bad as fuck.
I do all that stuff to my kids but I also spank them. Well, I dont spank the 13 year old. She’s old enough to do some hard labor. That and spanking her wont have the desired effect it has on a 2 or 4 year old.
Jesus your acting like we are saying to hit them over picking their nose Tanner. Its only when they get out of line, to which words and meaningless punishments mean nothing, to which they can only respond to pain. A GOOD parent talks to their kid after. A BAD one often leaves him there to contemplate this beating himself. I think that this is what causes aggression, becuase from first hand experience, i noticed then when i bring him back to the light through some belt to ass, talking it out with him usually means the child not only responds better, but is not likely to do their cross the line and act out again. I’ve done it with 3 kids, and they all seem better for it. And we all have a good relationship too.
On what grounds do the scientific experiments outright say that it causes aggression and anxiety? I am guessing that this happens, once again, when the child is left there to contemplate his beating himself. It depends on what he did as well. If you get spanked for the simple things like a mistake or a misunderstanding, which often happens with children, then yes, this will cause mental scars. A beating is necessary when the child has enter devil mode, does things he KNOWS is wrong, and undermines your authority. Words WILL NOT work here. At all. Take away all his toys. His TV. His Video Games. He will just get madder and respond by doing even more bad shit. That was a limit that was tested, a limit that was shown that he could act up as much as he wants, and his only punishment is meaningless trinkets taken away. Next they will start calling you a bitch and treating you with more disrespect.
What do you propose be done in this situation? What do the scientist suggest? I’d also like citation showing us that they weren’t meaningless spanks and actually had things explained to them, showing them the error of their ways. It shouldn’t have to be little things either, i am talking breaking expensive furniture on purpose. If you can’t cite that, than these “research experiments” are flawed.
The same people that make those studies also recommend that your kids take a cocktail of pills everyday to relive them of all their symptoms. Then they collect fat pay checks from the makers of all those wonderful pills.
The only thing those kids are abusing are drugs and their parent’s patience.
Someone once said, “Spare the rod, spoil the child.” I think that applies here.
Word man. I use to take this one medicine called Seraquel (sp) for mental issues. Man, that shit fucked me up so bad I stopped takin’ that shit. They give that shit to kids who are…hyper. Of course they have a term for it but its really just doctors trying to make money and parents trying to sedate their kids so they can have it easy.
Man if getting a spanking makes you aggressive I wonder what a few days of playing COD and Mk will do to a young persons mind. It’s like we are mass producing murders amirite?
The last several posts prove the denial in this thread. Those studies have hard evidence that spanking is bad and I just got a whole bunch of straw man replies from people who didn’t even read them. Stay free.
Man if spanking is so fucking bad why do you spend 3/4 of your day doing it to your dick Tanner?
Answer that shit with a fucking link.
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Told ya.
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How dare you bring my excessive mastabatory habits into this. Since when is 15 hours “3/4” of the day?
See now the things is that I had an alcoholic that who went so far out of his way to fuck with my mom and I’s life after their divorce that I ended up in the U.S. Dude had done acted the fool in all sorts of crazy ways. I similarly have friends who grew up with in other fucked up homes. This is the part that pisses me off about all you assholes claiming that a slap or some shitty corporal punishment was what had an impact on my success in life. That shit did not. Being held back when I was ahead of everybody in the class fucked me up; not having good guidance counselors or parents to teach me good reading habits fucked me up.
Understand the difference between my mom slapping me for cussing after being warned multiple times and some of my dad’s random shit gives me all the reason I know to understand the difference between abuse and appropriate corporal punishment. Getting slapped in Puerto Rico is a huge psychological blow to the person getting slapped: it lets the person know that you were so damn stupid that there was no other way to address what happened. The very few times that my mom hit me I remember clearly because there was no arguing that I was the one who fucked up.
Great thing about this shit is that I am like the most non-violent person ever. In my school I was the #1 person at any point in time that was gonna show up to break up a fight. So until I read the actual damn studies the rest of you can continue with the echo chamber.
Science is not a god damn absolute. Science = To the best of our abilities, this is what we’ve found out so far. Sometimes in the best of their ability they fuck up and leave out a lot of crucial information or details. Its a sociologist and a psychologist administering IQ test to 9 year olds. C’mon now son, we don’t get a proper longitudinal study or, at the very least, something that looks at grades in the long run? Are your critics of scientific studies that fucking weak? Apparently they are and this is why I don’t post anything intelligent anymore. Get on my damn level and stop taking shit at some dumbass face value.
Assholes.
Bingo. Whenever I got spanked as a child, my parents would always talk to me afterward. They’d explain why they did what they had to do, the main reason being that they loved me enough to punish me for my disobedience. Looking back on it now, that really made a difference in how I responded. It definitely kept me crossing the line again, that’s for sure. On the other hand, if I got spanked and was simply left to my own thoughts, I probably would not have responded nearly as well.
Can you really say that the studies have evidence that spanking is bad as a whole? The articles in question don’t even clearly define what ‘spanking’ is. Not to mention the fact that statistics aren’t necessarily the most reliable source of information. On the other hand, you have multiple people in this thread (including myself) who grew up with spankings and ended as normal, productive members of society. Sure, there instances of spanked individuals contracting anger issues, but we also don’t know the circumstances that take place with those particular families. That’s something that a research study won’t tell you.
There is a level of objectivity which cannot be assumed, since many people will feel like you are calling their parent(s) shitty people if they were spanked/hit by them. It goes without saying that people tend to have rather intimate relationships with their parents, and most people who were outright abused by them (to an extent so obvious that even most of the posters in this thread would label it as being such) can have very warm and even appreciative feelings for them. So when one is critical of the behavior of someone’s parents, things can get very touchy, very quickly.
One could actually make the argument that because people idealize their parents in youth and are prey to a sort of Stockholm Syndrome, that people who are hit by their parents are actually even more likely to feel a stronger need to defend them.
For example, notice the semantic games that go on in threads and discussions like these- spanking is not hitting, hitting is not beating, beating is not abuse, etc. These lines are drawn for several reasons, with the parents in questions usually being on the safe side of it. You can say your parents spanked, or hit, or even beat you, but if you say that your parents were abusive, there is a moral judgment tied to that kind of language. Abusive parents are shitty people, and you don’t think of your parents that way, and therefore there is a cognitive dissonance.
The fact that so few people who’ve posted in this thread seem to understand this, on either side of the argument, is one of the reasons it will never go anywhere.
Saying spanking can cause x condition is not the same as saying x condition is invariably caused by spanking.