if you get hit by an ultra your skills are weak? so every single top player that you watch play SF4 has weak skills? I’m positive everyone gets hit by those from time to time. That’s not a very good argument to get on your high horse about man.
There’s a lot of borderline trolling going on in here, I half think the thread was made based on a troll but it is what it is. Just please *try *and keep the flame bait and trolling to a minimum 
If you get hit by an ultra/xfactor/whathaveyou somewhere you screwed up and you should know it is your fault, blaming this on the “scrub friendly” gameplay is scrubish and if you find yourself losing to this often you need to step up your game. I remember when I was less than happy about X-factor and ultras but I decided to do something about it…level up my game, rather than blame so called mechanics on me losing to certain crap. I think scytheavatar worded it badly but I am sure you got his message, that or…well lol.
All I can say is, I’m happy you deleted the previous post you did in here because you grew enough common sense to realize the problem that would have stirred up.
I’m not going to get into my opinion of the games to be honest. I was more so getting to the point that his post was definitely baiting, had no actual contribution to the topic at hand, and didn’t need to be made.
I love Blazblue to death. In much honesty, I haven’t played Calamity Trigger or Continuum Shift I, I just started with Continuum Shift II about three weeks ago.
I haven’t played Guilty Gear much, but Blazblue really appeals to me because I come from an anime background and the game and characters fit my tastes. Not saying Guilty Gear is bad but Blazblue in my honest opinion is more refined and sharp. I still regret not picking up this game while Calamity Trigger was hot at the time.
I’m guessing that since Blazblue has that anime touch, and it’s created by the heads behind Guilty Gear, people will buy it. Many pro and casual gamers (including myself) play SF and Marvel because it’s a more popular fighting game and franchise. Because of that it’s really hard for Blazblue or Arcana Heart too to have a “voice” in the community in a sense.
I know I’m going on a tangent here, but in my honest opinion Blazblue is worth buying, learning, and getting oneself involved in the scene.
I am sorry, but don’t you build meter when you have 50% or less health? Thats a comeback mechanic .
Edit: What about bursts? arent those a comeback mechanic too?
I think what I said was true, but you are right it would have stirred up trouble that I really can’t be bothered to get into.
The game has Bang Shishigami, what other character do we need?!
It’s a solid fighting game, but there are certain things about it that rubs me the wrong way.
For one I think that neither Nu/Lambda or Tager fit in the game, gameplay wise. Lambda messes up the gameplay balance for too many characters (Arakune, Hakumen, etc., ruining how they’re supposed to be played) and Tager because his style simply doesn’t mesh well due to the nature of the game (he will pretty much always be a bad and gimmicky character unless they make him a lot more like Potemkin). I also can’t see why the best guard breaker in the game is a zoner.
And altough Arakune is fine, his whole game design is off-putting (basically, kill someone in 1 combo).
Many combos also take too long (though it’s not as bad in the latest arcade version). The abundance of loops is also a detail that rubs me the wrong way.
The balance of the game is also pretty off still (the damage output difference for all the characters is also pretty wacked).
But eh, there’s a bunch of stuff that I don’t really appriciate with current BB, so I won’t turn this into a rant.
But yes I agree with some of you that many of the characters aren’t really that exciting in BB, neither character or gameplay wise.
You have to have extremely low health and slowly getting meter is far from as big as having a Lv2 Ultra or Rage (from Tekken).
No, Burst isn’t a comeback mechanic (or if you want to call it that, it is far from being on par with LV2 Ultras and Rage in the damage department). When you’re at low health, it’s pretty much only your skill that will win the day. You don’t have some super powerful move or bonus damage that activates when you’re at low health.
Well yea its not as extreme as the current games, but giving you something as you take damage in order to put you back in the game is a comeback mechanic. IE that extra meter you need for that extended combo for damage or get that burst you use to get out of damage(Yes i know you can bait them)
Supers in ST are like comeback mechanics lol. Ryu vs Ryu one has 80% life and no super while one has 20% with a super. 1 mistaken fireball and your life is over
A Burst is more of a defensive tool to help balance out the crazyness of the game, but it can still be punished without too much difficulty.
It’ basically a one use (per round, out of a maximum of 2 Burts the entire match) DP that deals no damage and can also be used during an opponents combo.
It’s not something that activates once you have low health, it’s something you have to manage (across rounds even) like your meter.
You having a Burst offers very little in terms of risk for the opponent. The fact that it increases the chance of you getting guard breaked as well just makes it all the more risky for you to even use it.
Against some characters Bursts are even less useful (Lambda for example) since they have many Burst safe combos (at least partially) and setups that would only result in a reset if you Bursted. Even if you managed to Burst your way out you would still be in a very dangerous position if you’re sitting on 1-2 guard primers against say Lambda.
A Burst is more of a risky and very limited option than a “comeback mechanic”. Honestly, if you call a Burst a CM, you might as well call all DPs CM.
That’s a matter of opinion and perspective. IMO Taokaka and Hazama ruin my game with Lambda in it. Newer incarnations of Hakumen are kind of a pain actually and Arakune causes silly shit across the board.
I think you’ll find that most of the cast has a couple characters that just destroy their gameplan because their gimmick outright beats their own. Matchup charts turn out surprisingly okay despite that, but it’s like you lose what you were playing the character for.
One million people will want Ken even though Bang is all the man this game needs.
Oh, awesome. Sometimes I can’t tell the difference and I didn’t want to make an assumption.
What I meant is that Lambda completely ruins the way certain characters are played. The characters cannot be played like they’re meant to be played (which is something I don’t think any character should do, at least not to so many characters). Arakune can’t float around and do the stuff he’s supposed to do because all any Lambda player has to do is to throw out a D. I mean the matchup will pretty much always be 7-3.
No character ruins the way Lambda is played and she has no real bad matchups. The fact that she isn’t even fun to fight against (from a gameplay perspective) and has some very stupid stuff doesn’t help either (that Crescent Saber BS really needs to get balanced, because the way it is now is just dumb).
Of course all complaints directed at the game can be labeled as “subjective”. Because if someone says X is broken or not properly balanced someone else can just disagree.
In any case, I’ve listed some of the reasons why I dropped BB recently after playing it actively since CT. It’s a solid game atm, but not solid enough from a gameplay perspective for me.
Eh, I like it, and I’d say it’s good fighting game (with a bad community, however), but then again I’m a noob pretty much. Not been playing fighting games all that long and in truth I never play anything outside of BB, Guilty Gear and SSF4.
blaz blue is ok. just the top tiers are a bit retarded. like koto or cs1 litchi. nothing is more frustrating then getting hit by koto 2c and then lose 8k. plus the gameplay offer’s too many defensive options for my taste ( barrier, burst, etc ). i’m one of the only people who feel that if i hit you, then you should take punishment for your error. this fact is one of the reasons why i prefer umvc3/ssf4 over bb.
Bang, Taokaka, and Hazama are all awful matchups for Lambda, in ascending order of awful, because they all ruin the way Lambda is played. Lambda vs Hazama is about as bad as Lambda vs Arakune (in CS2, possibly slightly better, but still hella bad) because he’s superior in every way once he has meter and his zoning actually goes fullscreen. Litchi and Carl are also meh, though the CS2 changes improved both of those. I mean, she’s good in CS2 but she’s nowhere near as good as you’re making her out to be unless you’re an Arakune main. Also, have you seen the CS:EX changes at all? Tager is legit because his frame data is much improved and he gains meter very fast, along with damage output and magnetism buffs, while Lambda’s Crescent Saber (and many other moves in the game) no longer takes away primers.
That being said, I’m a Noel player and I thought her CS2 form was kind of dull. Press D for a 4k combo, so dumb, and I’m really liking the direction her CSEX version is taking, but more importantly I like how ArcSys revises BB beyond simple roster balance updates, such as the changes on mechanics, like the much needed nerf on IB.
Hahahaha I caught you, “BlazBlue is fucking terrible…” 
LOL i wanted to troll. but on the real, i do like bb a bit. it was more fun with ct ( yes i main jin ) but after cs1, it’s gotten stale. and i hate some of the changes such as guard primers for example.
If BB wasn’t good it wouldn’t be earning quadruple of the sales of GG world wide. If BB wasn’t good there wouldn’t have been that many attendees for it at EVO, in which a low tier character won the tournament with simply good play. I don’t know which character won at AE, and mvc3 it was pheonix. That says a lot about tiers in the game.
If BB wasn’t hype, Arc System Works wouldn’t be investing in extra merchandise for it. If BB wasn’t good, it would’t be getting ready to enter its fourth iteration by now.
Extract what you want from what I said, everybody has their gaming preferences, don’t let what other people say influence your actions and the games you play and don’t play. I was one of my city’s founders in my city’s Blazblue/Guilty Gear scene, and some people dislike/hate mvc3, is it a fun game? Yes, and that’s why i play it on the side. Likewise, some of the members in the community like/love sf4, I don’t. Doesn’t stop them from playing, nor would I encourage someone not to play it, they may or may not like it. I just like higher pace games is all, but doesn’t mean I can’t watch AE matches. You have to try out any game for yourself and determine if you like it, not base it off other people’s preferences.
Hope that helped 
lol fei long won ae ( he’s s tier ).