Land a U+Hp and learn the Unfly infinite and the air-to-ground combos. U+HP can beat Sentinels moves with the exception of sentinels j. hp. You have to stay in that ass the whole or else you not going to win. Sentinel zones IM out sooooo well.
upFP can reach sent before he sticks out his movies but I wouldn’t say it beats out his flying moves. mess around with airborne LP a lot too as that can actually be very useful and at least trades.
also, IMs ground AND air moves beats magneto. if you use the right moves magneto can’t even get in. what with low to the ground smart bombs, airborn FPs to cover the the angles they choose, and going back into the air with sj.LP ad LP. then he still has his ground stuff. he can do the same thing too to storm, maybe sent/cable, cheesing them out unless they have the life lead of course. though this is mostly mid/end game speak.
also I have a GB using psylocke that reaaally seems to fuck up the few characters that can get out of IM’s GBs
This is a good answer. U+HP beats out Sentinel’s frying pan if sentinel is not at max distance though, and you can follow up with a dash into air to ground.
So air Fierces… huh??? Guess i need to practice, also i’ve already learned this air to ground combo: launch, regular air combo,and after flying up fierce i do, unfly down hp, addf lk, slight pause, up hp, fly, fly lk, up, unfly and repeat until re jump infinite, this one works with heavy characters, but i found that for mid sized characters on mid screen there is just one air to ground combo, after flying u hp, unfly, up hp, addf up hp, fly, fly lk, up hp, unfly repeat, the part of “unfly up hp, addf up hp” is mad hard, i just wanna ask if there is another air to ground combo for mid sized characters, if there is not i’ll just practice 4 a month, lol. I edited my post 4 one last question, i wanna ask for a corner fierces infinite that goes like this, launch, up hp adf, up hp, up hk, land (sj up hp, adf up hp, up hk) repeat in brackets, r those the correct inputs?? I watched this last on youtube, on a beatsofdevil’s match. Thanks by ur advices
yes those are the inputs
just keep practicing. or you can always use assist air to grounds to supplement until you get it down. depends on the team you play.
Thanks a lot beats!!! Thats a crazy infinite, lets practice bout!!
When people say air to ground they are more so referring to (your IM) catching the opponent with a mid air poke (like U+HP) and then transitioning it from an air combo to a ground combo.
You’re including launches in your combo… if you’re trying to infinite from a launch it’s pretty easy on characters all sizes.
^ he actually correct with the air to ground notations. though he included a launch in the combo that is not the simple setup into ground infinite they are the commands for air to ground. pretty sure he understands the difference between combo into nj inf and a2gs
I’m clarifying facts for him, nothing more or less, no assumptions made.
well a2g is more the sequence using unfly to bring them back to the ground regardless how they got there. mentioning launch is just preference. depending on the subject, mentioning launch would be preferential as you can try to exactly explain the amount of reps it would take to get to the ground with your notation (since doing it after a launch would help someone in that case since tagging your OP in the air can really mean anywhere in the air and won’t help the person know the amount of reps)
Damn, of course i understand the difference, thanks but believe me, I’m not exactly a noob, i’m just learning IM anyway thanks by clarify, shadedwolf do u have vids on youtube??? I would like to see ur matches, it looks like u really know a lot about mvc2, i’ve seen beats matches lately, but what about urs??
I never got into the whole recording videos thing, never had the community for it either. Most of the people I ran into loved thugging it out either on the Internet or in person rather than playing a good match. I find most people have this tendency where they are more concerned keeping secrets and cockriding than actually trying to get better.
I do visit my friends now and then who have marvel online. If there was less lag I would say that’s the best way to play. Probably can play some matches after Christmas.
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Some of the combos and options may be useful to you. I usually did every combo twice, once on a regular character and once on sentinel. Aside from the ending being a parody, everything was intended to show that you can actually do the combo in a real game, showing that there are no character restrictions or placement restrictions (you can time an OTG off of sentinel throw mid screen as you can see in the video). I remember getting excited over some combo videos (I DIDN’T KNOW YOU COULD DO THAT!) and then remember being very disappointed when I found out that the combos couldn’t be done on certain characters, or required specific setups and positioning, aka, useless.
A couple things to point out:
I show how to land a timeflip combo on an opponent, then I do a sequence where I launch them, and jump over to the other side with Cable. You can vary your timing with this, and create crossup resets or fake the crossup to reset on the same side. It’s a very unique situation because your timeflip clone is constantly attacking while you are switching sides. I’ve had people try to block it and it’s never been consistently blockable. Better yet, it’s unmashable (you get hit by clones if you try to stick out a poke) so you can really get some + frames or throw or play other mixups. Otherwise, they say one of the greatest compliments is when someone tries to copy you.The magneto disk into DHC options was pretty much nonexistent in majors prior to the video, and ironically enough, it’s pretty important for team combofiend… and I know sanford used the commando backthrow into sentinel at a major after this video came out. Coincidence? Perhaps. What’s important is in the end is the potential to be usable in a real competitive game.
The magneto disc DHC is old - I’ve seen it done 3 years prior to your vid and other people have said the same. It was known about - it just wasn’t on any vids. I didn’t post about it at the time due to the flame fest at the time. Not gonna sabotage this thread - just setting the record straight.
EDIT - The otg from sent’s throw midscreen was done ages ago in the JChensor Sentinel vid. And - being polite - I highly doubt Sanford watched your vid.
Interesting vid
Magneto has been disking since Marvel Super Heroes. Of course it’s old. By your logic all the shit in “Tricks of Trade” is garbage because it’s been seen before. And you proved my point by saying it wasn’t in any videos, thanks.
You’re taking the quote out of context. I was talking about POSITIONING ISSUES, hence when I was talking about the midscreen setup.
And being polite to you, this is the difference between a top player and one who is not: the top player watches EVERYTHING, learns every trick, every setup so that when that 1% scenario pops up they will win the game with it.
If I were to say one thing about me that made me stand out when I dominated NJ was that I knew much more about the game than everyone else. I often watched players who were significantly worse than me play simply because occasionally you learn something odd or interesting… and I can definitely say that several times I have won games because of things I learned from other players - better or worse.
lol you shouldn’t have even bothered augmint. lol the above is why people don’t bother with him (and why I avoided it for the most part)
magneto has not been disking into DHC since msh
augmint never said the setup was garbage, just that it was not original when you put it in the vid nor was it very likely that people got the idea from viewing your video (I didn’t even know it was in there…probably because I turned it off rather quickly)
tricks of the trade has a very specific point. hell it’s in the title even. tricks that have come from somewhere already but that a lot of people may not know, especially for more obscure characters.
that’s not the point nor was djb13 trying to say he came up with something first or would even mention that they saw some top player use something after his vid. though I would say there has to be some stuff in his vid that he has come up with.
I do agree that you can find tricks or ideas from nearly any at least moderate player. tricks and gimmicks may help you win a game here and there too. but actually playing and studying top players will help in the long run more obviously and for longer sets and what actually is good/works.
Funny talk coming from someone who claims not to bother with me. Fail.
Learn to read. You missed the point. Kids from 3rd grade have reading comprehension enough to get the point: IT WAS NEVER ON VIDEO, AKA, WHAT AUGMINT SAID.
It’s funny you’re talking about original not original when it’s obviously that your original intent (HAHAHA) for posting is to troll.
What’s the title of my video? And what follows in the first minute?
AND to reinforce a point I made, even among all the “tricks” every aspiring top player needs to see those videos, ala what I said before.
you desperately need to take your own advice
You read what you want to read. No one was talking about suck outs or gimmicks, and if you say that the disk thing is a gimmick you’ve talked yourself into a hole since you said it was used by top players but just wasn’t on video.
Stop trolling and attempting to derail the topic. Anyone who graduated from elementary school can see you’re following me around trying to start shit. So what did you just say before? Don’t bother? Oh really then?
Nice job making yourself look like an idiot.
**Here’s the part where you start flaming me and talking more shit despite instigating this shit in the first place right? Count me out, you want to e-thug go somewhere else for it. **
as proven again you seem to have the problem with the simplest of reading comprehension. it’s like you only read every other word in a sentence LOLOL. get back at me when you can learn to read. I knew I shoulda just ignored you.
here, let me help you some. avoid-ed for the most part. see the italicized part, if you read that you wouldn’t be making wack comments like the very first part of the above or the whole stupid-ness you said against augmint. much like that crap video, I will not bother with the rest of a post from a seemingly universally agreed upon troll/scrub/idiot/whatever
actually, just skimming the rest of your post you clearly totally ignore or miss points. but seeing how you totally replied wrong to augmint I guess me trying to point it out didn’t help your dumbass
Speaking of avoidance, nice avoid on everything I wrote.
Anyway, take care.
yet you avoided first…and still entirely miss the point. like I said and hope the other people read (though they probably already can see it too), it’s pretty much agreed upon that you are an idiot/troll. you’re not winning any argument here and you never have as far as I can tell.
here, re-read my post (all words this time), don’t try and argue points that aren’t there, and then maybe it will be worthy of a response. the reason why you probably won’t do this is because then you’ll see how much of an idiot you are. you bring up stupid points in your reply to augmint, I point out how stupid you are arguing those stupid points, and then you ignore. so simple-minded…or truly a troll, but more likely just stupid
just like you couldn’t even handle the valid points myself and pretty much everyone was making on your whole last spiel against merdoc/j360 and just ignored it, you’re proving to be ignorant here too.