Interact ShadowBlade Arcade Stick (now using XBox 360 mode on PC with PS360+ fully working)

Hi I’m goint to mod my old Interact ShadowBlade Arcade Stick which to me looks really cool, I now some people hate it and is an extremely hard to mod that most people will say “Buy a new one or look for something else” but still in my personal taste this arcade still will look amazing

This is how the Stick looks at this moment

http://s10.postimg.org/qcd4pdbnd/Shadow_Blade_Front.jpg

The first thing I want to use is to replace the buttons with Seimitsu PS-15.

http://www.akihabarashop.jp/images/seimitsu-PS15Measurements.jpg

Second the most problematic thing is the stick, here is how it looks right now.

http://s2.postimg.org/8fk76265l/Shadow_Blade_Inner_Stick.jpg

I’m thinking to get a Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK Joystick but I need to get a shorter shaft like one of those from Hori Tekken 5 Stick

Which one of this PCB do you recommend me?

  • AKISHOP PS360+ with Xbox 360 mode on PC fully working
  • TOODLES CTHULHU
  • Zero Delay Arcade USB Encoder PC
  • Dual Strike

This is the final supposed result of the Stick at the end of the project

http://s23.postimg.org/dc8q8zr0b/Shadow_Blade_Final.jpg

I done hard to do mods like this in the past.
before you order up push buttons, measure the actual opening for each button.
My experience is that these buttons are 24mm and not the regular 30mm.

I might also want to look into the Seimitsu LS-55, 56 or 58 instead of the Sanwa JLF, as they are smaller joysticks.

Thats assuming you can find and match the bolt paten to the joystick.

Thanks for your help I didn’t notice that Seimitu PS-15 were 25 mm

So what about the Sanwa OBSF-30

http://www.petedoeswebthings.com/deconstructables/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/OBSF-30infosuper.jpg

After searching around I’ve found that

Seimitsu LS-55 has 37mm height and Seimitsu LS-56 has 38.5mm height but I don’t know what’s the height of Seimitsu LS-58 (nevermind I’ve found that LS-56 and LS-58 are equal the only difference is the spring).

Seimitsu LS-55

Seimitsu LS-56-01

http://www.gremlinsolutions.co.uk/gremimages/LS-56-01super.jpg

By the way what are the differences between those sticks compared with the Sanwa JLF

on another thread I’ve found that Seimitu LS-55 and Seimitsu LS-56 seems to be longer thatn Sanwa JLF according to this table.

Before the JLF became the default joystick for the Japanese arcade gaming industry, Seimitsu joysticks and Seimitsu-clone sticks used to be standard equipment for home arcade sticks.

It’s been documented by other SRK owners who own retro-sticks that some Capcom and Sega joysticks did use Seimitsu components (usually modified or cloned joystick parts) in them. A lot of people have refurbished retro-sticks like these by buying compatible LS-56 or LS-40 parts.

(The LS-32 isn’t used in older joysticks so much because it’s a tank in comparison to the smaller Seimitsu joysticks. It’s the most popular replacement for the Sanwa JLF in Hori and Mad Catz cases because a) it’s compatible with the existing joystick harness and mounting area and the cases have the space to accommodate the LS-32; b) it has a PCB “-01” version that works fine with the harness; c) across the board, it’s probably the most versatile and generally most comfortable Seimitsu joystick (opinion that many other people share); and d) you can find this joystick in stock at practically every parts vendor that sells Sanwa JLF’s. It’s about as common as the JLF in-stores even if the JLF is generally the OEM control lever in most mass-market joystick product.

(The other common Seimitsu joystick in-store is the LS-56. LS-40’s, LS-33’s, and LS-55’s generally aren’t carried much outside of Southeast Asian vendor stores. They’re just not that popular outside of Asia… LS-40’s can and do occasionally pop up because they were used in Neo Geo Arcade cabinets in Asia. They also have certain handling advantages over the LS-32 and shaft covers which are not available for the LS-32. The main thing I dislike about the LS-40 is the need to replace the stock mounting plate if you want to install it in 90%+ of the joystick cases made today! That’s an extra $5 out-of-pocket for a curved piece of metal that should be stock equipment for the LS-40 series.)

Oh, and the big reasons many of us prefer Seimitsu over Sanwa JLF are the advantages in throw and engage distance – those figures are rated medium or short in many cases. The Seimitsu joysticks don’t have to be moved as far to execute moves and the microswitches on them get activated sooner partly because of the shorter throw and partly because their tabs are gated unlike the JLF which uses “naked” tabs.

I just think the Seimitsus are easier to use than the JLF and generally more compatible and comfortable to use with more game genres than the JLF. The JLF is a FightStick best suited for modern fighting games – it’s horrible IMHO on retro-fighters; Seimitsu joysticks are ARCADE Sticks more comfortable across the board. I certainly prefer to play shooters, platform games (Super Mario Bros, Donkey Kong, Earthworm Jim, Mega Man) and retro-fighting games with Seimitsu joysticks!

GeorgeC you are making a good point about this, I’m planing to use this for Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat like games more specifically for Ryu / Ken and their powers (Shoryuken / Hadouken) which seem to be pretty difficult to to if you don’t have a pretty good stick.

Right now I have a Street Fighter IV TE stick which I can use to compare what I want on this new project.

So for now I need a small Stick which should be an LS-56 or LS-58 or a JLF (in this proyect I need a low profile stick)

As you have mentioned other Seimitsu like LS-40, LS-55 or LS-33 are pretty hard to get and most people haven’t used so I don’t have too much information about those sticks and I cannot say if they are going to fit on my SadowBlade MOD.

LS-33 seems to be pretty small but I haven’t read that much about that stick and also is pretty hard to get it so that’s why I think my decision will be between LS-56/58 and JLF.

Thanks for your information GeorgeC.

No thats not it. The Seimitsu PS-15 are still 30mm buttons. Its the openings (holes) in the panel the entire button fit into that determine the size not the plunger.

I mean once you remove the stock buttons from your INTERACT stick. Measure the openings for the buttons that remain.

Ohhh I see yes the openings of the buttons are 30mm (27mm or something like that)

Thanks again for the advice so I’ll go with this buttons :smiley:

No, don’t assume your arcade stick has the correct size openings. Measure the opening for the buttons before your order anything.
You need to remove one of the original buttons first and measure the opening thats left on the arcade stick.

Ok I did the measurement with a ruler and it is exactly 30mm.

I also took a picture to the button’s height that is 22mm.

I did it I did it :smiley: I bought a Seimitsu LS 58-01 and look I made it to fit on this tiny case.

This is how it looks in the external part

I’m still using the non modified bottom cover with no need for making a hole at the bottom

I’m impressed. I’ve always loved the idea of modding a stick that wasn’t meant to be modded with arcade parts.

How did you mount the LS-58?

Very nice. Are you gonna do any more to the stick? And yes please tell us how you did it!

Shure.

First I had to remove every switch from the PCB and then I have moved the common connector away from the PCB

Then I have sanded half of the base of the Seimitsu 58-01

Right side:

Bottom side:

Then I created the holes in the PCB of the seimitsu 58-01

Sal_The_TIller I have plans for installing Seimitsu PS-15 buttons, Cthulhu PCB or PS360+ PCB, I have also plans for doing Select/Back + Start mod with other buttons and I have also something special with Home button so I’ll be posting here more pictures

This looks like a lot of work!!! But whoo, go TC! It feels good to complete a project.

I’m interested in seeing the final product.

I have more good news I’ve received my buttons from UK but unfortunately the British store send me a wrong blue button

http://s24.postimg.org/s46ytsc8l/buttons.jpg

So meanwhile I have to use the rest of buttons except that blue one.

This is how it looked before I removed the buttons

http://s23.postimg.org/3qv6zcrd7/back_old_buttons.jpg

And here is after I’ve removed them

Back:

http://s9.postimg.org/mcsldqibj/back_no_buttons.jpg

Front

http://s16.postimg.org/6bil1wrsl/front_no_buttons.jpg

After a while this are my new Seimitsu PS-15 installed to my Cthulhu PCB

http://s10.postimg.org/qazr0tibt/back_showing_internals.jpg

Now this is the front with all buttons except the blue one

http://s24.postimg.org/9v9dqym0l/Shadow_Blade_arcade_stick_front.jpg

Finally if you look I’m still using the original back part and it even carries my USB cable :smiley:

http://s22.postimg.org/8i3spautt/Shadow_Blade_arcade_stick_Back.jpg

I’m at the middle of the road, I didn’t liked Cthulhu PCB because in games the buttons are shown as 1, 2, 3 etc instead of X, B, A, Y so I ordered a PS360+ and I also need that blue button, later I’ll do the painting and least but not last the HOME button

You mean in the pc controller app button labeling or the labeling on the PCB itself.

The labeling on the PCB is ok, should be more like the PS360+ but still I think its ok because the manual says how it is supposed to but the the problem that I have with Cthulhu is that in the game when you are about to play the messages appears as “press 2 to play” instead of “press A to play” which I bothers me because I got used to see in games the XBox 360 Gamepad setup by default showing hints in games like press A to Jump B and they even show them in their respective colors.

By the way thanks Darksakul for your recommendation about the seimitsu sticks, after playing for a few minutes SFxT I have to say the Seimitsu LS 58-01 is much much much better than the Sanwa JLF by far, now my ShadowBlade is my favourite stick :smiley:

Now I would like to know were can I buy pads (feet) for this stick?

Are you playing a console or PC version of the game?

Rubber pads? Try your local hardware store.

I’m gonna try at local hardware if not I’ve found some rubber pads on amazon.

I only play PC games, I don’t have any console.