You could always add a PiiWee board to it for dirty sexy Wii/ Wii U action.
No idea if PDP makes a Common ground PCB yet but if not swap it out for a board that is common ground.
What I donât quite understand is why they put a bat top on the Sanwa JLF(?) shaft⌠Thatâs just not normal for a Japanese joystick and most people by now are used to ball handles. Are they looking to crossover to the MK crowd or what??? Itâs not going to feel like an American joystick regardless of the bat top.
I really donât see big markdowns for the collectorâs edition of this game unless it just doesnât sell. Theyâll stick to the $150 price⌠Canât imagine much below $135 online.
Theyâre probably not making that many CE boxes to begin with.
Itâs not going to be 12,000 like the Tekken 5 Anniversary release was in the US. It took uncomfortably long for many gameshops to sell out of inventory of those T5 collector sets.
Today, I still see PDP Mortal Kombat joysticks in the neighborhood gamestores.
The lesson is that thereâs only so much interest for some of these games/characters.
Unless the final art is hideous â and I admit I donât care for the mockup art or DCâs redesigns --, I canât help but think the characters will be a huge draw for some gamers and probably sell out the Joystick Collectorâs Edition.
Well I believe its the same studio that producing the game as the last MK game. And if the studio has any input on the design they tend to go with what is familiar territory for them.
Outside of MK fans the MK PDP stick was not a huge success. But I donât know why they do a limited run on this stick unless they are trying to create a artificial scarcity to drive up future sales. I doubt that would work considering how cluttered the market is getting.
Yup, thatâs what I have. Just waiting to get all the pieces together for my 9-in-1 (PCB) stick. Keep in mind the WiiU doesnât support Gamecube controllers.
Perhaps they finally realize Sanwa/Seimitsu components are superior and/or more popular than Happ?!? LOL! No straight 6 button layout this time, just a Namco Noir style button layout although I prefer a Vewlix button layout. FWIW, Iâve read on CAG that some Best Buyâs awhile back had a couple of MK TE bundles remaining here & there for $60 on clearance but that was insanely rare (a handful across the nation). They only made 6K of the MK Klassic sticks. Thereâs a plaque on each one listing, âxxxx of 6000â.
Yup, same developer (NetherRealm Studios with Ed Boon) as the last 2 MK games (MK & MKvDCU).
I liked the PDP fight stick but Iâm a huge mk fan so it brings back memories for me. I did however mod the thing with iL parts cause the stock ones were crap.
I really contemplated going and preordering this because Iâm a huge comic nerd too, but Iâm still holding to my guns that those buttons ARE concave, which means Sanwa had no part in this. Iâve read articles online of people dissecting the released image of this stick and the common consensus is that those buttons are concave. I would normally have no issue with opening this thing up and sticking Sanwa in it, but who knows if Sanwa will even fit in the thing and I really donât want to mess with the lighting system. Just my opinion though. Others swear up and down those are convex buttons, but Iâm not preordering anything until this thing is handed out for review or this tight lipped bumbs at PDP or nether realm come out with more info.
I was at my local GameStop today and they still had a PS3 classic MK for $50 new.
No offense but judging by your disdain for concave buttons Iâm guessing youâre too young to remember when arcades were abundant across the United States.
Ya, I still see some of those at a couple Gamestops but I was referring to the MK TE bundle with the actual MK9 game.
Well you would be completely wrong in assuming that. I grew up on concave back in the day but after getting my hands on Sanwa itâs hard to go back. My pdp stick is concave iL, but itâs more of a collectors piece IMO. Furthermore, Iâm mostly just trying to make a point to everyone claiming this thing is full Sanwa.
Or heâs old enough to remember using them, and thatâs why he hates them?
I guess Im the only one who thinks thereâs enough Jap-style sticks on the market. Can we have at least one Happ/IL with an eight button layout that we dont have to build ourselves? I wish this stick is Happ/IL and I dont see how everyone is saying its JLF⌠the bat top on it seems much bigger than the JLFâs tops and I have seen Clear IL Translucent Pustbuttons on Paridisearcade. Hell the shaft seems to be ticker than your regular JLF. Im, like a very few I guess, hate the feel of JLFâs. They are too loose. So I hope PDP dont fall to the pressure of doing the same as all the other companies and stick with Happ/IL. Its a limited edition so not many will be made and its not major lost for them.
Not to be an a$$ but thereâs a reason why Japanese-style components (Sanwa in particular) are in 99.9% of top-tier ($100+) sticksâŚThey sell! Iâm not going to get into a debate as to which style is better but PDP is just like any other company as in, theyâre in it to make money, NOT to lose money. They havenât confirmed one way or another which components theyâre using but hopefully they learned their lesson from the first two sticks (MK TE & MK Klassic) that American-style components donât sell well. Then again, Iâd be happy either way since itâs a new stick.
Dude you're not being an ass at all and I welcome your comment. As for the comment, the Jap-style sticks sell because thats all you have to chose from. Now this is just my opion but I truly think that the only reason the MK stick did not do as well as the others is because of the button layout. I do belive that if Mad Catz, Hori and Eightarc where to make their cases 3in taller and put Happ/IL parts in them and give you an option of Jap-style or Ameri-style both will be successful. The problem is like you said companies are in it to make money. So why take the risk....... if the Jap-style is selling like hot cakes do as the Romans do.
You also brought up another good point saying PDP has not confirmed and this is just my opion but I think they are jjust felling out the community. Trust me Im like you, Im not trying to get into a debate on which style is bettter becaues no style is better it has to do with the person. Saying Jap is better than Ameri is like saying 360 is better than PS3 SMH...... Both systems have their pros and cons just like sticks. I just hope PDP will go with the Happ/IL so the Happ/IL guys will have an option thats all.Cant beat the price though⌠This IS tech talk and rarely do we leave much (of anything!) stock around here anyway⌠Took a gamble and preordered⌠Even if itâs crap parts⌠There is always dremel to fall back on
<blockquote class=âQuoteâ rel=âwigsplitterâ>Dude youâre not being an ass at all and I welcome your comment. As for the comment, the Jap-style sticks sell because thats all you have to chose from. Now this is just my opion but I truly think that the only reason the MK stick did not do as well as the others is because of the button layout. I do belive that if Mad Catz, Hori and Eightarc where to make their cases 3in taller and put Happ/IL parts in them and give you an option of Jap-style or Ameri-style both will be successful. The problem is like you said companies are in it to make money. So why take the risk⌠if the Jap-style is selling like hot cakes do as the Romans do.<br />
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You also brought up another good point saying PDP has not confirmed and this is just my opion but I think they are jjust felling out the community. Trust me Im like you, Im not trying to get into a debate on which style is bettter becaues no style is better it has to do with the person. Saying Jap is better than Ameri is like saying 360 is better than PS3 SMH⌠Both systems have their pros and cons just like sticks. I just hope PDP will go with the Happ/IL so the Happ/IL guys will have an option thats all.</blockquote>
I highly doubt Suzo-Happ/iL arcade sticks would be nowhere near as popular as Sanwa/Seimitsu arcade sticks if both were equally available by the same manufacturer. Itâs mostly old school gamers & very few younger gamers who prefer Suzo-Happ/iL over Sanwa/Seimitsu these days. That demand isnât enough for most arcade stick manufacturers to justify making an American-style arcade stick in addition to an all-Japanese arcade stick in their lineup. Most of Arcade-In-A-Box (AiAB) sticks were sold with Suzo-Happ (they were really using iL Compâs but you get the point) components however, they (Ed Farias) went out of business (Iâm still saddened by this). And no, Iâm not hating on AiAB as I have one myself (although it has all-Sanwa/Seimitsu components) & love it! Only other American-style arcade stick manufacturer I can think of off the top of my head would be X-Arcade & theyâre not as popular. FWIW, their buttons are based on Suzo-Happ Comps with Cherry switches although they use their own design for the joystick lever with microswitches.
Off topic. I sometimes wish that Happ would design an âAmerican styleâ stick that would fit in a Sanwa style mount, similar what Crown did for K-sticks.
Iâm old school and I NEVER liked Happ parts.
Iâm perfectly fine with Japanese and Korean parts, thank you! Much more comfortable than what was in Western arcades through the late 1990s.
I would imagine that unless Happ/iL see a reasonable chance of success that they will never resize components to fit into Japanese boxes.
Thatâs a difficult order there; the stick would have to be redesigned, resized, and component-wise (screws, bolts, nuts) reimagined. Not a cheap job.
They want to recover development costs and actually make a profit. Iâve heard how expensive it is to make molds for toys (tens of thousands of dollars for something like the old Kenner Millennium Falcon playset) and thatâs not something that companies go into lightly hence all the reused body parts and repaints on many toys. IE, they reuse the molds until they break⌠The dies and presses for mechanical parts canât be that cheap, either, and unless existing hardware gets used itâs going to be expensive to create the dies/presses for new parts.
I thought it was smart for the Korean parts manufacturer (Crown?) to design a Japanese box-compatible joystick. The vast majority of sticks sold are Japanese-design; the vast majority of fighting game enthusiasts are Asian. As long as thereâs a market for joysticks, people will want to see new product and test things out. There is definitely a market for that Crown(?) joystick but itâs probably not huge in the West just like the demand for Seimitsu parts is generally specialized (LS-32, skeleton buttons, etc.) and frankly no one in the West carries the full line of Seimitsu product anymore than a few domestic vendors stock Sanwa JLW joysticksâŚ
The Happ/iL market is mainly the retrogamers that have to have âexactâ parts for their MAME set-ups and authentic arcade machines. Few people realize or take into account that there were probably around at least a half-dozen manufacturers at the time arcades were at the peak of their popularity in the US.
You donât hear the name much anymore but Wico was a huge vendor for arcades in the US for quite a while until they shut down and sold out in the late 1990s⌠My first two specialty joysticks (back in 1981/1982) for my FIRST computer were Wico joysticks.
Suzo/HAPP has J style convex buttons on their website. I wonder if they distribute Sanwa parts, because they look exactly like 24mm OBSF?
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They are Sanwa buttons. I ordered some directly from them, so I can confirm
Wow, thatâs crazy.Â
So I bit the bullet & pre-ordered despite not knowing if the components are Sanwa, Seimitsu, Suzo-Happ, iL or generic crap. Meh, worst case scenario I can always get a refund if I change my mind. At this point, I think theyâre still undecided. FWIW, for both the MK TE & MK Klassic sticks they announced months before release they were using Suzo-Happ componentsâŚyet itâs less than 2-months prior to launch but no announcements/info regarding this unless I missed it somewhere?!?<br>