Alright Mario, I’ve been checking with every Dudley player I know to see what they think/their take…
So what’s yours?
Hmmm, right now it seems he is a little above mid tier and may have some horrible matchups. His pokes are okay and he can combo into big damage but he doesn’t seem to have much priority plus he can be easily grabbed out of his far pokes by Hawk or Zangief. Ultra 2 is great though. So many ways you can land it and I just found out it punishes Condor Dive on block. I regret not knowing this last night. It also punishes lariat. You can block the first hit and punish with the full animation U2.
I think you should definitely try him out but he feels sluggish compared to his 3s form.
Matt-GG’s, I didn’t get a chance to see your Makoto. I know she must feel alot different than her 3s counterpart. I’m wanting to rush down with Dudley faster than the game system allows, probably feels harder with Makoto since that is what she designed to do. I was surprised by the number of T.Hawks. I did not prepare myself for that and got command grabbed into infinity, lol.
gathering at my place: on friday from 3:30 til 11 when i have to go to work, on sunday 5:30 til whenever i don’t work this day, and tuesday around 5:30 til whenever. come play super with me i’ve got a lot of stuff i’m trying out.
edit: the sunday gathering depends entirely on whether or not people are going to muncie. if people decide they don’t want to go to muncie this weekend i’ll host.
we should definitely try for muncie that is if the other indy areas are going… i personally think dudley’s new nickname in super should be ‘Godley’… he’s ridiculous… and so is ibuki freakin 5 hit target combo sjc reset bullshit is crazy and i’m seeing it everywhere online… the good news is juri is sweet, guy kicks ass, chunli is a contender, and cammy’s hooligan tricks still work even in tendem with her counter U2…
hey do we have a set date for the PU quals yet?..
oh yeah marcus i gorgot to ask you at gs the other night if you live over in this part of town (emerson heights)… this is my born and raised neighborhood over around that gs we were at… if you live over this way let me know we can hang out sometimes
in my opinion after messing around with all of them none of the new characters really feel that great. some are better than others but a lot of them are looking out to be average. even i thought dudley was going to be crazy until i saw how high his jumps were.
Yeah I’ve had some decent time with him this week, and I think I will main him. Of all the past mains of past SF games that I’ve tried in 4, he’s the easiest one to carry over since Ken…but I like how he works.
Few things I’ve figured out.
- Stay mid screen. He’s still a great punisher, even with Rolling Thunder (which does CRAZY damage)
- Don’t bother with links as punishes…just RHxxJet Upper. Crazy damage, crazy stun.
- His regular dash moves as fast as his ducking did in 3rd…meaning they just switched the speeds on his two dashes. Ducking is slower, but you can kinda punish stuff with it, except you’re at negative frames if you do it empty, and can be thrown/punished a lot easier then in 3rd. But, his forward and backdashes are INSANE. They are almost as good as Makoto’s, just less difference, but they feel just as fast.
- f+RH stuffs everything but SRK’s on wakeup. I think this will be the key vs. Charge chars.
- You can get thrown out of backswing…but I was figuring out some solid tactics with it regardless. Not as good as in 3rd, but it’ll have it’s uses.
- Can’t seem to buffer DP on the ground…so it’s hard to get out on wakeup when you know someone is doing stuff.
- Rose can’t chip to death.
That’s it I guess. I can see my style of Dud working in this game…but I’m not sure how well rushdown would work, because he just doesn’t have great priority or the range he used to have on stuff. His oki game is ridiculously tricky now though thanks to his dashes.
I’ll probably stick with him, so I might be in for Super 4 now…not nearly as fun as 3rd Dudley, but eh.
The execution curve for him isn’t bad IMO, overhead ~ stand RH is not hard at all. Overhead works like an AA in some cases, but I have no idea if it’s good. I think he’s solid, but low forwards still own him all day.
I’ve been thinking on a decent counter to low fowards all day. I WANT to say timely backswings can beat them out…but I need some more time in game to figure that out. I’m not too worried about Shoto’s though. Midscreen, right out of range of low forwards and sweeps. His priortity on FP and RH is sitll good enough to beat out a lot of stuff, and I’m thinking cross counter could work for a lot of the rest of it, but we’ll see.
His execution is much, much easier though. If I sat in training mode I could get j.FPxxRHxxJet upper in probably ten minutes. That was always a combo I had trouble translating into matches, so I typically just did ex machinegun.
And getting MGB off of RH is so, so, so, so, SO easy. My goodness it’s easy. Feels like you have three seconds to get the input in.
He’s gonna be decent, but not broken, which I like. He’ll be hard enough to play that I doubt he’ll ever be flavor of the month, so I can roll with that. Just have to get used to the SF4 system…I hate it. Getting thrown through backswing blow is STUPID. Having minus frames when you actually HIT someone is dumb. I don’t get it, but whatever.
Rufus’s Ultra 2 is hilarious. I spent an hour or so in training mode today just randomly testing what it could punish and from how far away in various situations. As much as I was hoping for a change he might still be the best choice for me, although I do enjoy playing Juri, Rose, and Hakan quite a bit. If I was smart I would drop at least two of those characters and focus on learning just one or two but I won’t because I’m a dumbass.
Rose’s Ultra 2 makes silly things happen just by existing.
because no one seems too interested in coming by tomorrow i think i’ll just cancel and get my rest in. anyone know whats going on with sunday? muncie or no muncie?
i would come by, but it wouldn’t be until at least 7.
Just picked up super and I’m definitely staying with Dictator. Too much fun.
every time i get nailed by bison/dictator’s new ultra i have DBZ falshbacks from my childhood…
i just left a message in the mucie thread asking paul if we were having a ranbat or whatever at the bar this sunday… if we are, anyone who plans on going out there let me know, i’d be happy to roll with you and pay for gas and whatnot…
I don’t know where I stand on Bison’s new ultra. Its cool and all but I still I think I prefer Nightmare Booster. It seems to work better as Anti-Air now.
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bison’s U2 is like one of the best new things he got. the hitbox on his standing roundhouse hits a little higher now so it works better as an anti air. you can combo into U2, you can punish fireballs with U2, and you can even do reset/crossup setups with it. bison feels like one of the better characters in the game now.
K’ has been confirmed for KOF13. Normally I wouldn’t really care that much, but his teammate slots are still unknown which means there is a strong possibility that Kula might be in it as well.
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On Topic: SSFIV is good, but 3S is better.
Also, oranges>>apples. FACT.
Kickboxer 4…I rented that when it came out.
i’ve fought so many dudleys this week it hurts… i think i got the matchup down by now but it kinda kills me that half the new roster’s gameplay revolves around timing, whether it’s ibuki’s crazy target combo resets (which i also plowed through alot of) or dudley, makoto, and guy’s juggles… that was a point of combat before super but now you have to be better at setup timing than you do other aspects like zoning or defense…
K’ in kofXiii is awesome in itself and has the plus of possibly including kula… groovy… throw in kim chapwan’s sons or some of the characters from maximum impact and were golden
finished registering for EVO just tonite… did you register for any events eric man?.. lemme know when you find plane tickets and how much they’re gonna run you so i can check prices and all that