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hey neo, please continue using RR, you’re RR is GODLIKE!
Here’s a couple of my ranked matches:
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I usually use RR on point but I changed it up with Strider first. I had some other RR on point vids but they got corrupted.
It’s getting hard to get wins with Rocket Raccoon. But they get frustrated too. Trying to use Stryder with Raccoon now to stop those air dasher characters.
Loser Finals
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Was so tempted to use Deadpool when I was down 2 matches. LOL.
Grand Finals
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Too many mistakes on my end. It’s cool. 2nd place not that bad.
Uploading 2 more of my matches that were done on stream when i get it.
NeoRussell
2 more matches from me. Comments are more than welcome.
I need to know what i’m doing wrong too, i ain’t perfect with him.
Bill307 vs NeoRussell
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Future vs NeoRussell
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Thanks for watching.
NeoRussell
You’ve defintely got those resets down (totally stealing that cormer log reset tech). What I recommend is leveling up your Strider. Sometimes I like to switch it up and put Strider on point with Spitfire Twice backing me up. Level 3 X-Factor Ouroboros is great and all, but once that power boost and speed boost runs out, that comeback becomes much more difficult to make.
That log reset is on Guy’s youtube channel if you can find it. I don’t have the link on me.
I like putting Strider in front of RR, by DHC or tagging him in or whatever. Most people can’t deal w/ Spitfire + Vajra + satellites. Strider is so safe in this situation, unless there’s, you know, random shinkuu hadoken.
I used to have Strider first but the biggest problem I get with Strider, Raccoon and Amaterasu is DHC supers. Stryder and Raccoon just does not connect together when it comes to DHC’s. I can put Strider in 2nd or 3rd as alternate but being first suffers in DHC. I mean unless its for resets (Trap Super with Raccoon). I do agree that my Strider needs work so i have him on point during casuals for now.
NeoRussell
There was a video of a person using RR / Strider / Ammy, I think in that order that I posted up a while ago. He’s got some cool tech. His name is Valdi from wherever paulow and brian kasugano is from (sorry the name escapes me xD).
My Strider is pretty ass too, but it helps that you have spitfire or log behind him when he teleports to make it safe. And then when you pick Strider on point people go… “STRIDER!? ON POINT?!” makes for some serious lulz
As far as DHCing Legion into Rock and Roll, there’s a specific timing. It’s sort of right after Strider jumps back to call the animals. As soon as you see the first animal appear, go into Rock and Roll. Both supers should fully hit including the second part of Rock and Roll with the Spitfire Blast and spinning knockdown.
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2 parts of a first to ten set I did with a friend. (I wasn’t really playing like I usually do because I was kinda doped up on Vicodin. Wisdom teeth removal sucks…)
I don’t believe you have to wait for the animals to appear, just DHC right away. The animals come out regardless, like HSF.
And HAHA FULL SCREEN GRAM, I’ve only watched the first match and this is looking like I’m playing. I do a lot of spitfire + teleports, as well as hitting and running away. Let me see if I can find my matches.
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Kind of old, and not my best matches, but they’re there. lol. I dropped a lot of Jill and Strider combos. Plus I learned a whole lot more resets and combos after this time.
Wow you’re right. It was like watching yourself play lol. And I noticed that adding fullscreen Gram to Strider’s zoning can sometimes catch people off guard. I guess people get impatient sometimes when you’re keeping them out real good. And if it whiffs, it’s all good if you got a satellite with you.
So here’s the 6 matches I got recorded from today. Managed to win, tho my team didn’t get very far in the tourney and I got shut out in singles >.>
Team Black Guys got 2nd place in the tourney so I at least feel pretty good about this win. IM/RR still a pretty rough around the edges, but it was still a pretty even spread throughout the matches with who was putting in work. Didn’t get a whole lot of work done with RR, but actually managed to go into a real XF3 oil bomb loop combo (though I hadn’t labbed that off of a throw so I didn’t know how far I could push it and dropped it. :/)
Let me know what you think and where I’m fucking up so I can stop being a pot monster already.
Ninja Edit: Also, I’m gonna try to get some recorded vita matches so I can get my team’s hitbox data. I’ll try to take some pics or post a vid once I get it.
I’m not an x23 player, and my Ironman / raccoon aren’t GREAT, but this is what I think:
So one thing I would suggest, because I was actually thinking about Jill / repulsor / spitfire, is that you might want to save repulsor for mixups rather than combo extender. You have log trap and that’s enough of a combo extender if you don’t start with it. X-23 is like Jill in the sense that her mixup game is hella strong, if you can lock the opponent down.
One thing about Ironman, is that he’s really unsafe after S. He’s like -a billion. I’d say always aim for krispy if you can, he’s safer that way.
Your RR does a lot of rom-ket skates, and I’m not sure that’s a good way of going in. IMO, if you have a fast lockdown, (I think Ironman might be fast enough) you might want to try f.H + assist > rocket skate forward or burrow. Regarding level 3 xfactor loops in the corner, there was a combo posted in the combo thread a while ago by sprint : S > j.M, j.H, j.S > boulder trap > f.H > S > j.M, j.H, j.S > boulder trap etc. This combo hurts like a mofo, and it leaves plenty of meter. Not sure how it scales after a throw, but it wouldn’t drop out like the oil bomb loop.
One last thing : learn Ironman TAC infinite. You’re running him second. X23 has the dirtiest shit when it comes to using all that meter. Learn it. I’d show you a JP video, but it seems dead ATM. I’ll post it for you once it goes back up.
Overall everything seems good, just gotta keep on playing
The thing that Jill has over X23 is fast and dirty left/right/high/lows off her FC>teleports, X-23 really only has fast or ambiguous left/rights (she has IOH on tall characters and fuzzy guards but I don’t have a great RB fuzzy setup yet .) That being the case, I would 100% say use RB as Jill’s main lockdown since she gets so much more off it anywhere on the screen. With X23, I’m pretty much stuck fishing for a left/right anyways and the startup/range/conversion options of Log Trap seem to play more towards X23’s strengths since she can play a really annoying air/ground evasion/fishing game with almost no risk to her or RR whatsoever. Plus, the team is set up that I can extend and convert off both regardless of starter. I do hope to get some more setups off RB so I can transition from a full screen left/right/pressure into point blank lockdown/pressure eventually, though.
On the infinites, IM’s the newest member of the team and I only have his corner down TAC to a point where I’d feel comfortable trying it in a tourney match and X-23 doesn’t have the hitstun on her sj normals to go into a TAC after a relaunch except on certain super-short combos (don’t think I ever got a spot where I could have tried it in those matches without knowing his midscreen options.) She still does 1.1mil meter positive with both assists+DHC or 950k -.5 meter off of a log trap hit. Def. agree with the it being the derpiest of options, which is why I’m ok with putting the time in with IM (plus he’s one of the few assists that are worthwhile in her neutral game AND guarantee dirt naps against incoming, combo’d, or blocking characters.)
Totally right about the S, too. The god awful whiff during that match was me screwing up a fly attempt to salvage the whiff cr.M. T.T
It seems like IM is fast enough to get in safely and activate off of a fH if not a fHxxShrapnel. I’ll have to give the fHxxDig to see if that’s a safe option since I always prefer to be on the opposite side as my assist calls whenever possible. My eventual plan is to be more fluid and competent with both RR and IM switching places as needed but I had to spend the month prior to the tourney just getting Tony to a passable point so my RR always plays like an anchor RR, atm. That being said, as anchor/XF I’ve been having a lot of luck with mixing up Roming and Air throws against people that like to stay in the air. Rom’ing is pretty oppressive, both offensively and defensively, does a ton of damage in XF3 even on chip, and either kills or leaves you in a spot for a mixup. I didn’t know about the XF3 boulder loop so I’ll def. have to check that out. The oil bomb loop seems worthwhile (does like 1.1mil on clean hits) though I should have been using float sj.S instead of sj.MS in the corner and probably wouldn’t have dropped it there.
I would love to see some of your matches (don’t know if you have any recording capability, but I’d be happy with even handcam.) I’ve been scouring the Youtubes and haven’t found anyone else running this pairing yet (and I imagine it’s an even smaller portion that play RB instead of Unibeam.) I’m all for sharing tech and I’ve been posting all of my IM + Log tech over on the IM forum if you decide to go that route (probably not as good for Jill since she has the wall bounce but it’s absolutely amazing for X23 and IM+Log lets you play his zoning game but get full conversions off RB and UB M and the double RB enders.)
Sorry I meant with Rocket Raccoon and Strider on 2nd, the DHC does not connect. I’ll keep trying to make this work somehow.
I got 4th in a tournament last weekend with RR/Ammy/Strider team. I should have footages soon.
NeoRussell
You have to wait until the final spit fire is about to fire. Then you’ll get pretty good damage on Legion.
Huh? They usually pop out after the Spitfire blast. How would you get Legion to connect?
Ah it’s back up!
There’s no skipping function on the website so you have to wait till it buffers. @ 6:16, This guy’s using your exact team. This is the gameplan I expect when I see x23 and IM second. Unfortunately I can’t find any more videos of this guy.