"I'm not Gouken..." Oni General Discussion Thread

Interpreting kanji is fun.

First of all, the kanji for the airdash is the same as Akumas air hadoken, but with “palm” instead of “fist”, so I guess the name is “Zanku Hadosho”. ???

The lightning one was harder to interpret, it apparently means “roaring thunder” hadoken, and the closest thing I could come up with was Gorai Hadoken. Someone know how to better translate it? ???

The mi(ni)sogi move is apparently called “red star earth thunder fist”. I guess the first part means something else when the two kanji are put together. But I couldn’t find anything on it, so… “Akaboshi Chiraiken”. ???

The cross-up slash thing is to weird for me, so I’m just gonna do it the easy way and guess on “Rakan Dantojin” and hope someone with more japanese knowledge can translate it better. ???

The AA version of U1 is called “Messatsu Gotenha”, I’m quite certain of that. ???

The air version of U1 is called “Messatsu Gozanku”, which we can assume is correct, seeing as Akuma’s air fireball super is called “Tenma Gozanku”. ???

It’s possible my guesses are correct though, as the site I use manage to translate, for example, “shun goku satsu” correctly, from kanji to romaji.

Why would you use forward.airdash to get in? You wouldn’t.

forward.airdash seems to be for:

closing the distance after untech-knockdowns.(forward throw)
ambiguous tatsu’s
to catch forward jumps while back-jumping(ie being chased)

you’re gonna get punished if you ever use that dash on someone that’s not flat on the floor.

Also, getting in with Oni won’t be a problem. He has a balanced set of normals and specials to get in and to keep others out. He’s mid tier. Good, but not great in any specific area.

And that’s another reason why i’m gonna use him. I main Gouken and i’m tired of his problems.

I bet you can use Goukens airdash like I use Seth’s wall jump, to get in from mid-screen when the opponent leaves an opening.

Oni and Akuma have the same flag

anybody knows what’s oni’s kanji that appears when he kos someone with his super? gouki is ten, evil ryu is metsu, what about this guy?

I believe is Metsu as well from what i read…

As for Ultra, same like Akuma, is Ten

Well I bet neutral jump to bait a hadouken and doing a close to the ground air dash will be one of his tricks. I didn’t say it was easy and safe did I? I said it’s quite punishable from what I’ve heard but Oni from my perspective seems to be a really tricky character. Bad players will use him plain and simple, the good ones will find a lot of tricks and shenanigans with him. I mean most of his moves suggest that (:

And really I’m excited for his air dash. It may turn out to be somewhat like Akumas demon flip. Like if you could do a TK forward air dash cancelled into crossup tatsu how sick would that be? Time will tell but right now he seem’s to have a lot of potential (unlike evil ryu which looks to be pretty figured out cuz he has like 1 new move and all others are taken from two other characters who are already present like 3 years in the game lol).

I never really understood the hole doubts and debates about Oni being or not being shin akuma… I mean it’s obvious that he is doesn’t it? Like his voice is the same, his intro looks almost identical, he has a dark blue skin with white hair as his default color, he has the Ten symbol in both his ultras (yeah just like the original guy) and if you’re still thinking he might be gouken look at his intro and art. He has buddha beads, as far as I know they are his trademark much like the Ten symbol. I think there’s really no place to doubt here :smiley:

Looks pretty beastly. Is there a video with a cleaner version of his theme?

Nah, its not Metsu for Oni, it’s God something, theres 2 characters, top one means god bottom one can’t really see it.

nah, the top looks like ?? while the bottom i think is ?

i think they came up with the top part, combination of god ??and demon ?

Unless we get more video on that, cant really judge what exactly is the word for Super…
Sometimes the Japanese Kanji, although mainly adopt from the Chinese character, can be entirely different word from the Chinese, but their own creation…

I’m more agree with ??, I’ve seen that but never did actually believe it was that since there isn’t a bloody chinese character with that…

Can we get a move list added to the first post? I’ve been looking for one that compiles all of it and what it does.

I’m not sure about the name of some of the moves, but that can be fixed when the DLC is released, or someone better at japanese can translate the movelist. Also, I haven’t actually played Oni, so someone should add things I miss or get wrong.

Command Moves:
Ganka Uchi: :b:+:mp:

Worth noting is that Oni, just like Hakan and Makoto, has neutral and forward variations of his normals instead of close/far.

Target Combos:

Target Combo 1: :f:+:lp:,:mp:

Target Combo 2: :b:+:mp:,:hp:

Special Moves:

(EX)Gohadoken: :qcf:+:p: (Can be charged)

Uncharged disappears at about half-screen range, Fully charged (and EX) travels full screen and has two hits.

(EX)Gorai Hadoken: :hcb:+:p:

A delayed Hadoken with lightning effects. Has one to three hits depending on which version is used. Seems to function the same way Akuma’s Shakunetsu Hadoken does.

Zanku Hadosho: :qcb:+:p: in the air

Oni’s Airdash. LP moves forward, MP moves slightly upm HP moves backwards. Can be followed by airborne Tatsumaki Zankukyaku (only LP and MP, EX also works) or air Raging Demon.

(EX)Goshoryuken: :dp:+:p:

Oni’s Shoryuken. Only the 2nd hit can be FADC’d, and it only connects on hit, so you can’t FADC on block.

(EX)(AB)Tatsumaki Zankukyaku: :qcb:+:k:

Oni’s Hurricane Kick. You can’t juggle from it like Akuma, however, you can juggle WITH it. EX works like Ryu/Akuma/E.Ryu’s.

(EX)Airborne Tatsumaki Zankukyaku: :qcb:+:k: in the air

You cannot use this to escape the corner, the same way other shotos has been nerfed in this area.

(EX)Sekisei Jiraiken: :dp:+:k:

Oni jumps up and slams the ground directly in front of him. Only EX is an overhead.

(EX)(AB)Rakan Dantojin: :hcf:+:k:

Oni dashes forward a little bit and slashes with his hand. HP and EX version goes through the opponent while attacking, forcing them to block the other way. The EX version also pops them into the air for a free juggle.

Super:

Raging Demon: :lp:,:lp:,:f:,:lk:,:hp: (also in the air)

works like Akuma’s Raging Demon Super, however, Oni can also do it in the air, although that version only grabs other people in the air. Air version can be canneled to from a Zanku hadosho.

Ultras:
U1 - (AB)Meido Gohado: :qcf::qcf:+:3p:

If you hit with it up close, you go into a damaging animation, otherwise, Oni will fire an 8-hit fireball horizontally (if it still armor breaks at this point is unknown to me, but shouldn’t really matter). Seems to have better recovery than (Evil) Ryu’s Metsu Hadoken.

U1 - Messatsu Gotenha: :qcf::qcf:+:3k:

Fires an 8-hit projectile straight up.

U1 - Messatsu Gozanku: :qcf::qcf:+:3p: in the air.

Fires an 8-hit fireball diagonally downwards.

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Oni slams the ground in front of him. If it hits clean, it goes into animation, if it’s a juggle, a small shockwave rises straight up, doing moderate damage. I guess the shockwave can negate projectiles?

can you do TK on the air dashes?

I’m also wondering how low you can do them.

Just above there head or the head level of Dudley, since its not instant, I tried lower but he seems to land before it comes out.
(I mentioned Dudley since I only tested that on CPU Dudley and this was trying to crossover tatsu)

reeeeeally liking counter hit f.RH. Knocks them clean across the stage.

Just wish he had better options defensively, he gets rushed down real easily from what I can tell so far. The non-cancellable on block SRK hurts.

Wouldn’t you be better off using the Falling Palm move? I mean, they’re just gonna block anyway. Might as well use something that hits high and low and is cancellable, no?

and from the video in the DLC trailer, it looks like its fast enough to combo from standing jab and knocks down, I would say its the new SRK combo ender