"I'm not Gouken..." Oni General Discussion Thread

evil ryu’s second alt is terrible. His third is nice.
Both of Oni’s are nice though.

can we discuss match ups already? lol

Yes we can.

LK slash for sure is -3 on block. Dan does not get a reversal DP on block.

So far, any consensus on the most effective blockstring/hit confirm?

In addition, any frame estimate on those lights to TC2? They be a bitch (though a feasible bitch) to my wandering, inexperienced hands.

Well, Oni’s interesting, and I’ll keep modifying my avatar till I have it exactly right, but I don’t think I’m going to main him…

Oni doesnt really have anyway to get in other then his air dashes. Air U1 eats up wake up ultra kind of a nice feeling too lol

Isn’t it -2 if he can’t be reversal shoryuken’d?

he said “Dan”, his shoryuken is 4F.

Dan’s SRK isn’t 3-frame.

Btw, it seems js.HK hits behind Oni.

HK ground pound is about negative 2 frames, i couldn’t get reversal DP to hit with ken. You can probably you use it as a good meaty move since it has such a long start up, it loses to wake up DP though. :confused:

How fast is c.HP? Because it links from c.LP and c.MP VERY easily.

Also, f+HP feels so good to hit people with. 120 damage for a hand to da face! >:D

Im just going to guess, but other shotos jabs are between +5 - +7 I’d say oni’s feels same as akumas at +6, his cr.hp then is probably 5 frames startup as it seems like 2 frame link too me. His jab could be as high as +7 though since the link is pretty easy.

Oni has some really good footies. His anti airs are so good, you can force people to stay grounded during the match. I still lose to some rush down, or other characters who rely on their pokes (Chun/gen comes to mind) His fireballs are extremely fast and his lp shoryu has godlike recovery.

Any other normals I should be using? My main goal is to hit them a few times with forward fierce, bringing them close to stun and then some standard oni mixups for the stun.

Apparently you have to delay the U1 against some characters after EX slash.

Learned this the hard way against blanka.

Anyone else having issues with the stomp and slash commands getting mixed up? I turned on input display, was clearly doing shoryuken but was getting a slash. It’s incredibly frustrating.

This tends to happen to me after EX slash.

You can’t be holding back in any way when you do the stomp or you will get the slash. If you are doing it from EX slash just release the direction before you do stomp.

Ending your SRK motion with down-forward should prevent it because you need to hit forward for half-circle motions.

I’m surprised, from the new videos I’ve seen, that no one is using meaty slashes as well as punishing techs with ground pound