Never underestimate the power of MIGHTY KNEE!
Nicely done MrFlubbs. I was beginning to doubt that he had one since I had a hard time figuring it out yesterday after seeing an explanation of how it works.
Never underestimate the power of MIGHTY KNEE!
Nicely done MrFlubbs. I was beginning to doubt that he had one since I had a hard time figuring it out yesterday after seeing an explanation of how it works.
Job well done Flubbs, and everyone really who worked at it. Now letās milk this as best we can until the they patch it out.
At the very least, we should all chip in and send him a charming gift basket.
With much more emphasis put on tac, Thor and iron man should be moving up more. Especially Thor with his awesome crossover counter, super damaging tac comboes and awesome dhc synergy. He is starting to look like one of the better options in the second slot of teams. With that being said another thing to consider is the fact that with thor as your second, he is not meter hungry and his huge health, he can set up your anchor with a lot of meter and a lot of time for the other two characters to recover health.
If teamwork was all it would take to move Iron Man up slots, he wouldāve moved already.
And things like DHC synergy and such are still a big factor, and DHCing into Thor can be a pain in the ass to get full damage.
If he does move at all, within the tier list that has no true footing yet since we still obviously donāt understand everything about the game quite yet, itād be off of his own merits that he already had.
Actually if anything, Thorās screwed by the TAC infinites being discovered, as he already had one of the more potent TAC combos out there.
Even with the TAC infinites for Iron Man I still donāt think that helps him move up in the tiers. I want to like Iron Man but every time I play him against an opponent I remember why heās not a good character. With the TAC combos that have been found for Thor I do think that he should slightly move up in the tiers because I donāt consider him bottom tier any more.
He should move because YOU donāt consider him bottom tier anymore?
Just to tell you, very few people at all consider him bottom tier.
Yes, everyone that made a tier list and put Thor at the bottom should change it because I SAID SO!
Thatās not what I actually meant. I think with all the new information that has come out recently hopefully anyone that put him at the bottom will change their minds and see that heās not a terrible character in the game. Also, I know some people donāt consider him bottom tier but anyone that has placed Thor than higher that, I have never heard/read an explanation as to why they think heās not bottom tier. Finally, a LOT of people have placed in the bottom 5.
Yeah they didā¦in Vanilla. But the majority is that heās mid tier, and yeah youāre right on one thing. Most people probably couldnāt understand why heās better than bottom tier because no one really puts in visible work with him other than Abegen and Royal Flush, both of which seem to not believe in neutral assists.
But if people actually had explanations to why Thor was bottom tier, this TAC wouldnāt change it as there are much better characters to do TAC infinites with, much easier ones at that.
Iron Man can do a shit ton of damage but i feel hes more useful as an assist in UMVC3 since he has two of the best assist in the game being the uni beam and especially the repulser blast. I wanted to pick him up to see why hes so garbage and after using him for awhile I felt i wasnāt using him right, after watching player who mains him like Joker and especially condor missile i got a good lesson on how to utilize him.
That infinite is freaking hilarious. I remember telling my friends as soon as we found out about the infinites that Thor would have one. Figure it would be some shenanigans with mighty spark but couldnāt quite figure out. Hella props sir.
Thor is solid mid imo.
Thor is like 20-30 in BS levels in this game, he has tactics to beat even his bad matchups (Vergil, Dante, Hawkeye) but the advantage on the neutral game is obvious. The definite top 10 is Zero, Vergil, Doom, Spencer, Dormammu, Viper, Magneto, Morrigan, Wesker, Wolverine in no order, Thor is not in that level of BS.
Speaking of tiers, everytime you guys see Vergil trying to body Thor with that tutu-swords salty hyper AKA ouroboros for 1 bar, XFC into Mighty PUNISH, PUNISH that *****.
Condorās Ironman is nothing special. Heās just got way better natural neutral game than most people do. Iām not dismissing the fact that he is good, Iām just saying that with a solid fundamental game, you too, can have the power of Condorās IM.
According to people, Thor is close bottom, next to Tron. Pure bottom is PW because he REALLY needs Turnabout to winā¦ For the most part. That and he doesnāt have the bullshit that every other ātop tierā character has. Thor is not really an exception, besides beefy damage, which is why heās near the bottom. The tier lists really range from āFull of Bullshitā to āHonestā with āHonestā being at the bottom, but no one wants to call it that.
Sorry, I digress. Good stuff Flubbs for figuring that out. Iāmma be trying to rep some Thor at Evo. I just gotta remember to do more Mighty Hurricanes. I donāt do them enough. Especially on incoming, most people block my charged M.Mighty Strike and not push block, then chicken block the next hit. Maybe I can train them to stay on the ground by doing ADDF (without hitting H) and throwing the shit out of them.
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LOL Serpentaurus, right when I hit the post button for my little BS rant, I see this. Good shit, I need to remember that, because that Gucci belt is annoying.
Spencer is not top 10, I guarantee you that he will be dropping fast fairly soon. I donāt think Doom is either.
Meh, I think Doom gets to stay up there due to the utility of his assists.
Lately Iāve been working on follow ups for random Mighty Strike hits. Charged vs Uncharged on jumping vs grounded folks. Which direction leads to what and so on. So far all Iāve got is
cr:m:, Mighty Smash, :s:
:l:, , :s:
j:l:, j:m:, j:s:, land, :s:.
Of course, youāll have to keep an eye out for which to do for each one. The :l:, , :s: one is probably the easiest to confirm with. Iām still trying to figure out what to do after an uncharged :l: Strike hits. Doesnāt seem like thereās much room for anything out side of a Mighty Tornado. What does everyone else do? Any specific assist extensions or the like?
After an uncharged L strike I just mash S on the ground and pray.
Fully charged Strikes L are always hit-confirmable i think, at superjump height Thor must airdash down-forward, then j.S, land, s.M, etc. at regular jump height he can hitconfirm with a simple s.Mā¦ Hitconfirms is i think s.M best use, itās Thor normal with the best range in the ground.
For uncharged strikes M from air to ground, Thor can always go with j.L, j.M, j.H/j.S, Mighty Strike M, land, etc i think. s.S works as well in the most of the situations. I dont really know how to hitconfirm fully charged strikes M from air to ground u.u the 3rd hit has too much throwback. And for Strikes H from air to ground, i think cr.M is the best way to go always.
For fully charged M.Strikes M from ground to air (as anti-air) i always confirm with a Mighty Smash M
Looking more into the Strike, I found that if you do the j:l:, j:m:, j:h:, Strike, land, you can go to :h:, Smash, launch, j:m:, j:m:, :l: Spark xx Super. And that even works off starting from j:h:/j:s:. Was worried for a second because it looked like theyād pop out. If his moves were a little bit faster, heād be able to add onto it, but it looks like thatās all heāll be able to do solo.