I wanted the opinion from the pros on my team

Classic Fighting Games Marvel VS Capcom 2
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…Hi…I’ve been playin’ MVC2 consistently since it came out in arcades back in '00…and since a year after that…I had found a team that I felt suited me best…so I finally wanted to know what you all thought of it, 'cause I don’t ever see anyone else use my team (specifically, a certain character on it)

Spider-Man: Partner B Costume, Capture assist (for his quickness with combos, useful on Abyss form 3)

Spiral: Partner A Costume, Projectile Assist (Great assist, dancing swords own, kickass level 3 super paired with what I think is the best use of teleportation in the game, useful on Abyss form 1)

Morrigan: Partner A Costume, Projectile Assist (more good combos, excellent projectile super, nice use of air dashing to swoop in or arc over…useful on Abyss form 2)

…in that order…

I’ve won many battles, and I’ve lost as well with them, but I think I use them pretty well (but I could definitrly learn some more combos)

…so anyways…tell me what you think?

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I think you should practice with the top tier characters, in this order:

Storm
Sentinel
Magneto
Cable
Cyclops (very hard to master)
Iron Man

And some very good assists

Ken
Capcom
Cammy
Psylocke
Sentinel (drones or Rocket Punch)
Blackheart
Cable
Cyclops
Sonson(trust me, works against sentinel and magneto VERY well, try it)
Iron Man
Doom
T Bonne

Thats all I can think of now, but the tiers have thier assists, here are some pairs

Storm-Cammy, Cyclops, Capcom, Doom, Ken, T Bonne, Psylocke,
Sentinel-Blackheart, Capcom, Cammy, Psylocke, Iron Man, T Bonne, Ken, Doom, Cyclops
Magneto-Psylocke, Cammy, Cyclops, Tron, Doom, Ken
Cable-Blackheart, Capcom, Cammy, Cyclops, Doom, Ken, T Bonne, Iron Man.

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honestly? it’s very weak. why? it’s lik you made the team out just to beat abyss, and even then, it’s not exactly a good team to beat abyss. (cable, cyclops, sentinel would probably be a lot better)

but even for playing people your team is weak.

first of all, i’m a big advocate of using spiderman, and the biggest thing i can tell you is that spiderman sucks. i’ve seen the best that he can do, and honestly, it’s about impressive as a weak magneto. capture is not his best assist either. you’re lacking an anti air here, and he should be it.

second, spiral shouldn’t be on that assist. 1) she should be first and you need a trapping assist. 2) her good assist is ground. projectile is good, but too many projectiles and you’ll lose hard

third, morrigan. projectile assist is fine, but she sucks. she has a hard to do infinite combo, and her supers suck.

that’s about it. good luck

EDIT:
magneto maniac: the worst thing to do is just to learn top tiers. learn a diverse grouping of characters, so you learn how to articulate a lot of styles into your gameplay. if you ever notice, the best players out there have godly low tiers. look at justin for example… fucker can beat santhrax with morrigan / silver samurai / cyclops. go figure

EDIT2:
some good teams with those characters you listed…

spiderman / venom / doom
spiderman / venom / tron
spiderman / spiral / doom
spiderman / magneto - capture / psylocke

spiral / venom / doom
spiral / strider / doom
spiral / doom / blackheart
spiral / cable / sentinel
spiral / cable / doom

morrigan / xxxx / doom
morrigan / xxxx / tron
morrigan / xxxx / sentinel
morrigan / xxxx / commando

reason i dind’t put a second person for morrigan is because i don’t use her, and i don’t know who’d be good second for her. i use spiderman a lot though, and those are the teams i use with him

unless, otherwise noted, all assists are on tournie standard assists…

spiderman, psylocke, blackheart, cable, doom, commando - anti air
sentinel - ground
morrigan - projectile
venom - expansion
strider - variety / projectile

dont’ put sentinel on projectile unless you have a character that can use it… storm, magneto, strider, and cable are a few people that can

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lol m1x4h, I was about to say something to the effect that I’m a big advocate of using Morrigan but Spiderman sucks :slight_smile: To each his own I guess, we all have our own pet mid tiers.

As far as second characters for Morrigan go, I think either Ironman or Storm fit very nicely in those second slots; not only because they set up some nice DHCs and frame kills, but also because they can take advantage of Morrigan’s ability to land a hit better than she can by herself (after finishing off their first char with a DHC you can run away if Storm’s your second or GB–>inf if IM’s your second). They also provide her with some great throw-into-assist stuff, either with HP throw into Storm (projectile) or HK throw onto IM (anti-air).

Also, regarding her assists, she has a decent AAA-- not recommended against capcom or cyclops, but it beats psylocke cleanly and actually covers a good area of the screen-- pretty good against Mag/Psy teams, if you can cover it.

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Morrigan/Storm/Cyclops and Morrigan/Sentinel/Tron are the best Morrigan teams.

Seriously, your team has no chemistry, and Spiral is a meter-builder… she goes nowhere without someone to use all that meter.

If you really like those characters, I recommend organizing strong teams around those characters and picking them according to whichever character fits your whims. Even a team like AA-Spiderman/Exp-Akuma/Proj-Blackheart can succeed with a good plan.

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Thanks…

…Well…I didn’t build the team JUST to beat abyss…I just felt like sharing which character I used for which form…the team itself came from MVC1…Minus Spiral, of course…

…Spiral had actually taken the place of Psylocke before that…sometimes I’ll use Psylocke in place of Morrigan…and I still don’t exactly know what one of Spirals supers does (the LV 1 super that makes her glow red)

…I agree about Spidey…I use him well, but I’m aware that he can’t take many hits before he falls (especially when you have those guys with Juggernaut and they call him out every 5 seconds)

…Morrigans supers…I also agree…Soul eraser is her only good one…

…but anyways…thanks for the thoughts…

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soul eraser sucks because it’s hard to combo into. darkness illusion would be her best one. it’s the safest… and all of them, if they get blocked, she’s done.

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Soul Eraser is really good at punishing assists, and if you call Doom before you do it it’s fairly safe.

And Silhouette Blade is pretty safe too.

But overall, yeah, Morrigan’s supers aren’t so hot.

The red super is Spiral’s power up.

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tell me one thing. What teams have u played against?? santhrax( storm, sent, commando), scrub( cable, sent, cyclops), msp, row.

what would u rate the competition where u play at??
what other characters do u use?
and how exactly do u play with ur spiderman , spiral, and morrigan team. Do u rush down with morrigan? play keep away with spiral using her swords. rushdown with spiderman?

I’m asking these questions to better understand what kind of fighter u r. Since most of use can only tell u to use storm or sent since they are top tier and kick major ass. I’m thinking that since you’ve been playing for a long time that u must have seen vids to help u out at least on how to maximize ur characters abilities.

Its sad but true but in reality ur team wouldn’t stand a chance versus wong. or most great marvel players. The reason for this is because ur team would get raped by magneto. You would be kept away from the duo of sent and commando.

why play unless u want to be the best. I used to use strider, morrigan and spiderman. But quickly found out that sent and commando will easily put the hurt on my team since my team has its weaknesses.

don’t wanna give u a lecture and stuff, but just want to open ur eyes a bit. The reason why they mention to u bout spiderman needing to be on anti-air assist is because u really need at least one anti air assist to at least have that as a defense. How else r u going to keep a magneto from raping u. literally.

my team is frostbite: iceman, storm and sent. This has no anti-air, but I can play keep away with iceman and at the same time chose my spots to attack. storm is top tier and sent is top tier, nuff said.

morrigan dies fast, she should be used as rushdown. spiderman dies fast, shoud be used as rushdown but carefully, and spiral should be used to play keepaway with teleports and swords.

U don’t have to do this but what ever is effective. hope this helps. i’m in no way a pro but have gotten props from vegita-x. I just know enough from experience and just wanted to let u know.

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basically, chill effect is completely correct on his statements

but, i don’t play to be the best. i play to have fun. and iceman can be FUCKING nasty. and you don’t need an aaa if you have drones.

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I use spiral like you say to use her as it is, since she can cancel her teleports into each other (and during some attacks I noticed)…same with spidey, just pure rushdown…morrigan is used like a mix of the two…a bit of keep away, and a bit of rushdown…

In houston, I’ve beaten top tier teams and mid tier…many people knew how to use them, many others didn’t, but I never put up a crappy fight, nor did I make easy work of any of the good players…as for the skills of the people using them…I’ve fought pretty fuckin’ good (I used to fight another kid that was on this site WAY back, does the name “Repulsorgeist” ring a bell?), to lowly scrubs…but never someone as high as you guys are…and I’ve heard plenty about this Justin Wong kid, but never seen any footage (not talking shit against anyone, don’t get it twisted now)…

as for the kids I’ve fought here in chicago…Middle class to scrub…Houston held a lot more challenges…(the kids I’ve ran into don’t even know what wave-dashing is…unless you guys call it something else…I’ve shown it to them and it was new to them…wierd) I think the challenges will get better when I go up to nickel city though…

…now, If I HAD to learn a top tier character better, I would go with Storm…I tried Magneto, Cable, Sentinel…they didn’t go well with how I played…Storm kinda does though, I just needed to learn how to utilize her moves better…

…maybe I should bring back Iceman…I could use him pretty well, actually…when I did use him, I used projectile assist…but I still prefer Spirals over his…I’ve messed around with Captain Commando, and can use him ok…Felicia is alright, Marrow, Cyclops, some Dr. Doom, some Cammy, some Adamantium-Wolverine…basically Middleweights and a few Lightweights…overall, though, I perfer the Marvel side to the Capcom side…

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adamantium wolverine, marrow, felicai, and cammy are nothing special in any way…

morrigan and spidey at their PEAK potential don’t have half the rush that magneto does, and spiral is used for trapping. you can cancel all her normals into teleports. same goes for every command attack can be cancelled from a normal.

repulosrgeist rings no bell, and i’ve been playing for a LONG time

chicago isn’t anything special… i THINK VDO is from chicago, but i haven’t seen him play in a long time…

here’s links to good matches, including shit from wong

http://www.zachd.com/mvc2/
http://ase.tufts.edu/csa/commy/mvc2/

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Riot.Exe:

give u props for sticking with ur team and winning and stuff didn’t wanna make it seem that ur team can win at all. so u played in houston?? where at. I went to regionals over there this past november. I did really good. I didn’t know fastfly at the time with sentinel and my storm did enough. but now i know resets, unblockable with sent. guardbreaks so when i go to ts5 i will be prepared. that is texas showdown 5. hell yea its gonna be a blast and justin wong is gonna be there. and u should really check out that site that m1x3h put up for u. has tons of vids and even like two vids with spiral. just be careful when teleporting with spiral cause all cable has to do is jump back and ahvb. that is if ur teleporting right above him.

I got props from vegita-x on my iceman. I gave him some really good games. and u know that vegita-x ain’t just any player. he can do some nasty shit man. hope to see there at showdown man. u really should make an effort to go. I live down here in the valley, and there r a lot of marvel players here so the comp is good just not j wong good.

I know they recorded me during a tournament match i had with someone there don’t know his name but he used magneto storm and sent. I raped the hell out of his team with just iceman. I didn’t just chip either. I rush that shit down. there were a lot of magneto players in houston but to tell the truth iceman owned their magnetos big time. Iceman took down mags. my iceman only go killed by magneto like bout 4 times of all the matches i had. so yea I would say to play iceman.

I wanna be the best iceman player. but thats just me. well if u have nemore question put them up and maybe i could help.

i think most ppl prefer marvel than capcom players. lol. capcom r really just assists. but u never know when ken can just do an infinite on sentinel he has a good anti air too, invinsible on the way up so he won’t get hurt if they try to kill him.

my first iceman team was iceman (proj), sent(ground), cammy ( aaa), good team over all but iceman and cammy lose life fast so u gotta be good. who knows maybe u should give that team a shot. or maybe iceman, sent,spiral. or sent, spiral, cammy. u really should learn sent, i like to play mid or low tiers too but i mix it up with at least one top tier.

i’m working on anakaris, ironman, and doom. my anakaris is better than average and i know like two resets with him. anakaris inf is da shit and can take down sent if he want to do a hsf.

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Nah…its cool…I wasn’t offended by what anyone had to say…'sides, its just a game…thanks for the props though…

but yeah, I lived in houston for a long 14 years…I did most my fighting at this place called Fun Plex…I pretty much learned everything I needed to know there…and I went to other random arcades as well over the years…the place you wanna hit in houston (if its still around) is a place called “Stargate”…thats where the really good comp. was…

I’ve never been to any big competitions…and I never entered one for MVC2…

I also never learned any infinites (wouldn’t want to use them on another player…)…but I’ve been put in Iron Mans infinite…and I know about the dangers of spirals teleporting…but she’s better for it than anyone else in the game…

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getting somebody in an infinite isn’t a cheap thing, if that’s why you don’t want to get another player in it. and strider with orbs teleports are better than spirals

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Yea stargate is da shit man. Good comp and the arcade rocks. lolicup has some badass stuff. well neone that wants to win is going to learn all they can to fuck them up. wong.

keep playing cause marvel rules.

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wow…

…I was invited to another users house earlier this week…so I went…and this guys friend, marcus…he WHOOPED MY ASS with a team of Omega Red/Throw, Doom/Anti-Air, and Blackheart/whatever does the geyser move…(I don’t use him, so I don’t know what assist does what…)he’s the best person I fought so far up here (probably tons more like him at nickel city…) and I always thought Omega would be fun to mess around with…but…wow…that team went REALLY WELL together…now I understood what was meant when you all said mine had no chemistry…Spider-Man, Spiral, and Morrigan are personal favorites of mine…but they apparently DON’T go together at all…

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that team works well together because when you have blackheart / doom on the same team, you can create some nasty traps. BH’s inferno is anti air. you can basicaly have servebot / doom / bh, and be somewhat effective… i use that team…

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I need to learn how to use doom better…I can do SOME stuff with him…but I need to sit down with him more…Blackheart didn’t feel right in MSH, or MSH vs. SF…and he still doesn’t feel right in MVC2…I just don’t click well with him…Omega red…I’ve messed around with him…its just he has a lot of shit to remember, with the tentacles and all…but I’m sure if I sat down with him more…I could definitely use him better…

…then I need to learn all the technical shit you guys figured out over the years (in pretty much EVERY game I play…)

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blackheart, IMO is a very scrubby character. all you have to do is jump and throw demons down, and you can compete in low tier / mid tier play. doom, basically learn how to run away with him, and learn his basic air combo… top tier play is a lot different, but by the time you get to top tier play, you’ll probably avoid using blackheart. you really need to learn a lot with him to be effective in top tier play.

running away…

sj, hp xx photon array, photon array… throwing air dashes to reposition yourself always helps as well

basic air combo

c.hp, sj, lk, lk, aduf xx hyper pink shit

his c.hp is a good anti air, and it has really good priority.