Alright, so I’m simply trying to get better at the game, since I’m complete trash online. I experiment with characters, practice combos, yadda yadda. So I figure that I create a lobby online that simply asks for beginners only. I get a couple of guys who seem to be at my level, maybe a tiny bit higher, and things are fine. But next match? Someone with a B+ rank joins in, and just blows away whoever the player faces.
Christ’s sake, it’s hard enough for me to find a partner, since none of my friends play fighters. And I do enjoy playing this game, so naturally it’s in my best interest to get better at it. I look for fellow beginners, and I make it clear that I do so. But I get these higher-skilled players joining anyway. Why? Do they just not know how to listen?
Apparently, yes. Either that or he just wants to make someone else’s online life miserable. The best way you could do is to kick them if you’re the host or leave the lobby if you’re not.
It really cannot be avoided. The power of anonymity can really make an ass out of people.
I’ll just say real quick you can never judge somebody by their rank(There are really good players who make 2nd accounts with 0bp and set up “beginner” rooms just to wail on unsuspecting new players), and sometimes getting beaten bad can be good for you. If somebody is super good, give 'em a couple goes and see if you can figure something out. If you’re obviously just getting bullied past a couple games, just kick 'em.
And don’t always assume somebody is being an ass. If they play you with respect then it’s a good game, maybe they’ll switch out or be somewhat helpful after a game or two. If they are playing you with respect you’ll probably learn something too, people offline will literally go 0-20 against others until they learn something new. So yeah, you’ve probably run into a couple bullies, it happens, but you might be getting salty at dudes who are just playing the game. Hell, if somebody good pops up and you want to learn from them, send them a message and see what’s up, or just watch them and go “Oh, so that’s a good idea, I should do that.”
I have friends who make the mistake of only playing people they can beat/aren’t too challenging and they never get better. Don’t be that guy, give it a couple goes first.
^this.
It’s all practice, and getting bodied hard is part of the learning experience. I can’t speak for others, but if I totally outclass my opponent I’ll usually either drop to my alt team (which I’m horrible with) or just grab the shoto bros and play a basic game hoping the other people pick up on something.
i was very thankful to one real good bison player who bodied me 30 times in AE before i managed to get that one single game from him.
i learned not to press buttons, not to mash, not to do predictable things, to be patient. i learned a fucking lot.
It can be annoying at times, but getting beaten pretty hard in endless can help you out later on. Watch the replays, learn from your own mistakes. Maybe send them a message on how to improve (other people can notice things you might not), not everyone acts like a tough guy. If trolling, just boot them.
Also, as someone who accidentally marched into the wrong room on a couple of occasions, sometimes it’s just a matter of not seeing the title when searching for a room to join. Granted, if they stay it can be an issue, but IMO unless they start doing things like really obvious sandbagging, taunting, etc., it usually means they respect you enough to play you.
Early on I ended up adding a lot of people to my FR that were way higher than my rank because of that exact reason.
Also, I do the same thing if I set up a room myself and beginners enter or I go on an extended streak - I’ll use alts or start mixing my characters in combinations I normally don’t use.
First off, I want to thank everyone for all the feedback. I didn’t expect to see so much already. But yeah…honestly, I wrote that message when I was fresh in rage from losing.
Anyway, I suppose I could learn from losing and such. It’s just that when I lose BADLY, I’m usually to angry to even consider why I lost. For example, I was playing this one match in which the player had to win 3 rounds…and my opponent got 3 Perfects. Yeesh…from then on, I was just like, “Why do I even bother?”
But enough about me moaning. I guess all I can do is keep on practicing.
Translating the names for Endless Battles from the “I’m better than you perspective”
Practice Area ="I’m going to practice my main team on the team you’re practicing with"
Training With New Characters="I’m going to practice my main team on your new characters"
Looking For Beginners="So I can show you how awesome my Week 1 Zangief Hugo team is against beginners"
Looking For Strong Opponents="Until I lose anyway, then I’ll just leave and find some Looking For Beginners room"
All Night War=“I’ll just spam the same thing over and over with my main team, if the strategy gets blown up, I’ll just try the same strategy again, but with more jabs or LKs out front. And boost combos! If I get beat, I’ll just leave and send you hatemail as to how much you suck.”
Looking for Kids to Play With=:confused::wtf: Dunno what that’s all about.:wtf:
I feel ya’, don’t get me wrong. And in that situation, the best you can do is to indeed walk away for a while (go to training mode, cut the system off and literally take a walk… whatever works. Personally I’ll literally take a walk lol), and come back to it with a fresh mind, then watch a few replays or ask a few questions. When in rage, you won’t think as clearly and look for the wrong things.
While I was C+ rank I remember one morning being up until 6:30am getting my brains beaten down my throat by a guy (I forget who he was using, this was like month 2 of the game) for like 20 matches straight, long after the rest of the lobby left. Eventually he started sending me tips (the main one being, "you’r enot making me block, you have to pressure me). Granted I still have that problem but I’m working on it, dammit…
I feel really bad that I can’t recall his GT though.
Hell, whenever I’ve played BadIntent recently, it usually went like this: 0-20, win 1… 0-7… barely win 1 (maybe two on a good day), 0-10.
…actually that reminds me I need to play him this week, it’s been a minute.
Also keep in mind the term “beginner” is relative. When I start playing a brand new game, I would call myself a beginner, but with all my experience in previous fighters, I’d probably blow up a lot of people that are just getting into fighters and are hitting buttons or mashing dp. To them, I might look like a high level player.
A B+ grade is pretty good, though. If I was that grade I wouldn’t join a room that explicitly says Beginners Only or whatever. Yes playing better players is very helpful but the room is themed for a particular match-make. I’d respect that and move on.
I understand your pain, as I’ve been there before.
But I also should note that since I don’t have IRL friends who enjoy fighting games, I tend to be dying to find a place to practice with alternate characters. Sometimes players with a higher rank might be looking for a place to try some alternate characters and learn the game better on them.
When you see a “beginner” room, you can’t tell what their skill level is relative to, even by their rating. So I tend to pick a character I’m “mid tier” with, to judge the difficulty. If I win I pick a char I’m worse with, if I’m getting beat I usually stick to it as long as it’s not complete domination.
Usually I don’t go all out if I’m playing against someone whose skill is significantly lower than mine (although I still consider myself a beginner.) I’ll give him one combo and then I’ll spend a few seconds defending poking so that he could test and improve his offense and defense as well as enjoy the match. Once the match has been dragged long enough then I’ll get serious. I understand that being on the receiving end of a lengthy combo without having the chance to fight back is no fun as I’ve gone through that as well.
I don’t do this in ranked of course. I did this before when I got too cocky paid dearly.
