i find when your getting angry at something, continuing it ends up making things worse. when your getting to the point where after one round loss, you quit mid-match, then just turn it off, and go cool down for a while, do something else, play something else, but clear your mind. You cant expect to perform as well as you can with your mind clouded with rage.
Mmmh okay, I would definitely agree with that. To clarify, by “quit” I was referring to the long-term, a permanent departure from the game, rather than taking a short break. This will be in response to what you’ve just written.
I’m going to give you a valuable piece of advice (I’ve heard it numerous times from other people and it certainly helps me) and then apply it in three ways.
Here’s the advice: When you’re in a situation that you’re having great difficulty dealing with, while it is good to have an understanding what to do when trying to handle or manage or get out of it as well as possible, it is more important to recognize it as a bad situation; it’s even more important to have an understanding of how to avoid that situation entirely.
Application 1: Zangief tick throws you to death every time he gets close! While being able to reversal well is of great help, just plain keeping him at bay as much as possible should be the real focus. It’s great to be able to deal with that bad situation (Zangief being close) as well as possible in case/if/when he actually does get in on you, but preventing him from reaching that opportunity is a more effective strategy, and so should be your true goal.
Application 2: You’re losing to someone repeatedly! What is he doing to beat you? How are his responses to your actions winning out? Are you doing the same thing over and over again after you know he knows a counter? Are you giving him openings? Are you repeatedly doing things that are unsafe or unreliable? Is he baiting a mistake from you? Does he know poking distances better? Is he keeping pressure on until he sees you hesitate, and then throwing you? Try and change that immediately if you can, and practice it if you can’t.
Application 3: Getting beaten by someone is making you angry! While taking some time to cool off is probably a good idea, figure out why it’s making you so mad and try to change that instead. “Just don’t get mad in the first place,” I know, easier said that done, but hear me out, and nobody said this would be easy. Think of it this way: he won because he was somehow, in some way, a better player. There is probably all sorts of shit you can learn from him. What a treat, and what an honour! You have been given the chance to procure new knowledge, information, and understanding from someone who does this better than you can. How fortunate is that? Not only that, you just had the wonderful opportunity to meet and play against someone who shares a common love of the game, just like you. That’s pretty fuckin’ cool. I’ll bet you’d be feeling disappointed if you couldn’t find anybody who wanted to play. Heck, aside from all that, at the end of the day it’s just a game! Chances are you probably have a roof over your head, something to eat, clean water to drink, no reasonless tortures or punishments scheduled for you in the foreseeable future, and at least one person who genuinely cares about you: Lucky!!
Being able to take one step back and thinking just a little further outside of the immediate will afford you an incredible change.
sorry this game is actually pretty easy to get into… easy to annalyize. It’s not like there is dozens of moves for each character like in a 3d fighter… just some different types of normals and specials… peace
btw i’m gonna beat slevin back into retirement next time we play
well having played the game for a grand total of… maybe a couple weeks… i dont quite have all the details in place. i dont quite understand why somethings dont happen the way ive seen them. Im sure its easy for someone also who is used to fighting games, but i’ve not played many of those either… the occasional one here and there, but nothing serious or more than a week or so at a time.
Dude I don’t know why this thread is still here.
KILL YOURSELF!!! SLOWLY…BUT SURELY!!:mad::mad::mad::mad:
:looney::looney:
While I’m not particularly surprised about this based on what you’ve been saying, I want to highlight for you that, well, here’s the problem! It’s crazy to compare yourself and your own abilities (or lack thereof) to people who have years of practice. It’s even crazier to think you’ll be able to break even or even keep up with them, let alone be on the same level as them.
A novice player is already a master of his craft compared to a total beginner, who is again dwarfed by a decent player, who is in turn absolutely outclassed by an intermediate player… and we haven’t even started getting into the “good” players yet!
It’s silly to think you’d be able to carve something out of wood in two weeks as well as someone who’s been practicing carpentry for eight years, or even just six months. That is fucking looneybins, sonbuddy broboy.
If you like basketball, wouldn’t it be kinda cool if you got the chance to play around against a strong NCAA player? Would you get angry if he beat you?! Does it really matter if you lost? Does it matter that he’s not a top-of-the-top NBA player? No, he’s still leaps and bounds better than you, and talent aside it’s mostly because he’s trained more than you. He will be able to do things you cannot do, do things you can in ways you never thought of, and maybe even a few that you never imagined were possible. It would be a huge opportunity for learning, and unless you’re stupid about it you’d probably have fun.
Here’s a glimpse example of how many more thoughts ahead of you that a lightly experienced player would have. While you’re struggling with the sonic boom motion, they’re waiting for you to throw that fierce sonic boom (they noticed you use the same one every time) so they can short hurricane over it, then bait a dumb whiff because you don’t understand spacing, and punish your ass with a lil’ combo while your character is recovering from that move.
The really cool thing about SF is you can/will eventually get there too, and better. You just need to do three things, each of which inevitably leads into the next: suck it up, learn to have a good time, and play a lot more.
edit: A lot more! 
Hi, I’m new here, but I’ve been reading the shoryuken forums for a long time. I’m one of those people that have played fighting games forever, but I have lacked the competition required to really excel. I know the basics and even the non-basics although I don’t have much experience in situations where the things I know would really need to come into play because of the competition I’m facing. 90% of it is actual practice of those techniques so naturally I’m not very proficient in a lot of the stuff required. Anyway, the main point I’m trying to make or actually agree with frog on is that you should be happy to be facing people that beat you because there is a lot to learn there. Also a winner has to know how to lose. You will not win all the time, no one will. If you are winning all the time then you aren’t playing proficient enough people. The skill gap between top players is so small that they will trade off on wins most of the time, and any person can win on any given day.
The last few posts are great, but I think there’s a different side worth considering.
If you find yourself getting legitimately angry/sad over your performance in a game, it may be beneficial to stop for a while and take an honest look at yourself.
Any kind of competitive game (SF, sports, whatever) is simply not kind to people with certain types of psychological problems: Confidence, self-esteem, etc. If you struggle with any of these, you will not be able to succeed.
In short, if you’re really at a loss, it may be worthwhile to look at the big picture. You might have to make yourself a better person before you can become a better player…that was the case with me, anyway.
Maybe you’re just not fit for ST. I was in the same position for lots of games but then quickly realized that it just wasn’t gonna happen. One day I tried out BlazBlue and turns out I’m a natural at it. My second time playing at the BB machine and I was able to stay strong against the guys who have been playing on the machine for 2 weeks. I only knew the basics at that time and now I’m ready to try the more advanced stuff. Point being, not everything is going to be as it seems. Try other games and see what it’s like.
Actually yes, that’s really true too. And for the record, Josh is a really great person and a really great player.
I wanted to add though that, for some people, those same kinds of competitive games can actually help them develop in exactly the way Josh mentioned; so, don’t necessarily leave SF in favour of self-improvement until you know that it’s NOT helping you. Just take a vacation from it if it isn’t.
Between quitting or staying with it, I suppose the third option is that you could just get bored and wander off, in which case either you don’t get fighting games, or I don’t get you! Fighting games are wayyy too cool for that. :lol:
in case u guys missed it slevin is still playing now lol
maybe someone should just close this
dude i know i even gave shoutouts in the tourney thread
if you noticed, there is now someone else here who’s been looking for help. that explains all of the recent posts
I agree with you but it’s not always necessary to simply abandon the game, sometimes trying different characters may help just as much. I used to play Urien and was an overall average player in 3s and was never able to get past that level of play until I finally discovered I was way better with Ibuki and Yun, same thing happened to me in KOF with Angel and Mature, and in general I tend to suck or just get to average level until I finally find a character that feels natural to me.
…despising your useless pride
I think i know why your getting frustrated. I see EVERY new player do it.
Stop jumping at unoportune times against characters you shouldnt be jumping at.
I love punishing new players for jumping a lot. They get so frusturated.
Just because it’s fun, doesn’t mean you should do it.
This happened to me with 3s, entered a turney for 3s and ST for fun, i did pretty bad at 3s, but i eneded up better un ST watching only videos, and now i enter ST serious and 3s for fun. Just look for the game that suits you the best.
LMAO!!! :tup: couple of reason’s why I’m still playing
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Positive feedback and advise from people here
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Get on your level so i can at least put up a fight against your cammy… lol
This here is truth.
Consider also, as I’m sure you’ve already read in this here thread, that some of these fine folks have been playing this game for a DECADE OR MORE. On top of that, they’re naturally skilled gamers. You can’t expect to compete on that level right off the bat, regardless of intent. It’s not going to happen.
I’m a complete and total scrub, but I realized something that might help you out a bit: every time I end up in a match with one of the SRK big boys, I lose badly. But I also learn something. I might learn to avoid blocking low all the time, or that you can pull off a fierce SRK on wakeup with Ken, or that I need to work on my Honda game versus Guile. But I learn. Trash talk and flaming are inevitable on the internet, or on Xbox live or PSN, but it doesn’t mean anything. It’s just noise: completely irrelevant bullshit. Ignore it and watch how they play, and don’t worry if you ‘lose’. If you don’t lose, you don’t learn. End of story.
If you keep it up, and just have fun with it, you’ll get there. Anything that you do for fun will lose it’s charm if you work at it like it’s a job.