Yea, I know they’re punishable. Even on hit, if you push a button after or don’t get out of the way somehow, you’re right in range for lp spd and at 0 frames. I can hit confirm them, but the characters new, so I’ll abuse w/e they let me. The dive kicks I used on his wakeup were just reads. I know they’re punishable, too, but I didn’t think he’d block that first one. The second one was to bait out lariat(was safe), but he backdashed. Third was just me being dumb lol.
Thanks for the advice, though. That link does kill me a lot, but I can’t stop myself.
I am Bison main, but thinking E.Ryu as 2nd…
there is some sick combo in him, turtle, build meter, then punish, severely punished…
HOW he link c.mp c.mp st.mp EX hado SA2? that thing was even harder than c.mp c.hp…
and some of his combo are crazy, see the one link with st.mp srk into Ultra, WITHOUT cancel…
How do you think E.Ryu against Bison? is in Bison favorite or 50/50?
I think it’s definitely in Bison’s favor, probably about 6/4. Bison does very well against Shoto’s, all of them and Evil Ryu is no exception. He’s probably the worse off since he has very low health with less options then Akuma. As someone who is main’ing Evil Ryu, I dread playing against Bison’s. His scissor kick pressure is very difficult to deal with and it’s hard to pressure him after a knockdown because as we all know, Bison players don’t block after getting knocked down…
I disagree. I think it’s even. Scissor kick pressure is a bit less scary once you figure out what to do, at what ranges. With Eryu’s walk speed, lots of times after the first lk scissor kick, you can walk backwards and make the following c.lk whiff. S.mp will also stuff it from certain ranges. S.mp is also very good from far range. Will beat out or trade with his s.hk. Would have been a bad trade in super, but it’s a good trade in AE. They gave bison’s s.hk different damage depending on if it hit deep or not, so he loses a lot of trades now. Dealing with his wakeup is rock/paper/scissors, which isn’t a great option with eryu, but as far as options, I don’t think he’s at a disadvantage. He’s just got less health, so he can take less chances. Just need to be safe and work on baiting him and draining his meter.
well I can’t drop Bison since he is my main since vanilla, and E.Ryu can be my 2nd for bad match up, vs Guile and Chun even Gief.
but his combo are very tight, and can’t allow mistake (Range, frame etc, can’t read wrong must be NAILED, if I in doubt can I hit it? or it gonna whiff? I just stop)
I try some off line, is almost impossible to getting certain range, because it hit different on each character (some of his combo work on corner too)
that is a lot of stuff…and I am not even fully learn Bison yet…
I think is 50/50, I just get blown by some good e.ryu weeks ago, punish my scissor with dead accuracy (while I am thinking I am in the loop)
and nail me with some reset then I think is throw so I tec…I eat full blown frame trap c.mp EX ball FA2 crumble into Ultra…Ultra 2
Bison just getting too easy now, the worse thing they did is not NERF damage, is the Scissor Kick range increase, before that range in super, I have total control, I can jump I can punish I can keep going I can bait, now? I just 1 scissor kick, pressure is gone…really…if I am pushing too far like jump/dash is just become OBVIOUS and no more ambiguous jump/safe jump until I got meter or an knock down. Damage Nerf was just little thing…bison scissor pressure gone was the major pain.
anyway thanks for information and video. I have learn some cool stuff from you guys…
I was gonna post my tutorial here, but it seems like you guys beat me to it. Not claiming to be an evil ryu expert or anything (people mistook me for an akuma expert just by virtue of making cool vids), but I learn a lot about a character as I explore them in-depth while making videos. Hope you guys enjoy it! I’ll link it here and give you my channel also, shout outs to the guys keeping the dark hadou alive!
There’s a write-up and a spreadsheet available that cover everything the video contains if you’re interested.
