Im 1000% sure armies would rather have clones for soldiers. Not to mention you can train them from birth to be war ready and loyal by the time they can pull a trigger. If country forced every baby from say 2015 forward to have a clone enlisted in war camps from birth they would be a fucking force. Attachment theory and nurture kinship too stronk.
can i transfer my conciousness to my clone?
like, can “I” stay “Me” forever?
blah, buncha tools all for it without thinking outside the box.
Whether ethical or not,
You can’t say it is or it isn’t because there is no definition as to what constitutes a human being.
And say that we do start cloning for whatever reason, the republican equivalent screaming that these clones are taking our birth right. He will forever be in the right because the answer to what is it to be human has not been answered. You can’t with certainty claim that they deserve the same rights regular born individuals unless one can define what humanity is and then prove that these individuals who are carbon copies are human too, even though they where cultivated in a lab. and even if a satisfactory definition is found for the first point, proving it for the latter would be an impossibility because we can’t prove whether or not they are human due to how religion will forever be a part of any discussion, and many people wouldn’t be satisfied with the almost guaranteed “well the look like us, they breathe like us, and they feel like us”, because it isn’t a satisfactory answer and doesn’t explain nor prove anything, rather it simply states just because.
Which is why cloning human beings should be a no no. There are some circumstances where I would be obliged to allow it such as still child birth, some really terrible condition, or other things which rob a child of his life at a very very young age, but other than that it shouldn’t be allowed
Granted if people go trhough with it eventually people will come around, but last thing humanity needs is another excuse to murder one another over trivial shit that shouldn’t had been an issue with to begin with becuase people couldn’t agree with stupid semantics.
the same issue is going to come up with genetically modified humans, real AI personalities, and the almost guaranteed Robocop type nigga’s that could become a possibility soon.
On top of that you could select the best specimens for service. I’d rather have clones of Lebron James, and Mike Tyson than Danny Devito and Al Roker. Also depending on advances in genetic engineering it’s possible that birth defects could be weeded out, and perhaps things like sex drive eliminated. Lots of capable soldiers chose not to re-up because they want to start families. If their only desire is to serve the military there’s less turnover.
If you think its unethical, go ahead. Be my guest. Sign yourself up now for the genetically inferior caste because I’m not dying of liver failure.
I hope my clones subjugate all your asses.
All these crazy clone ideas.
GO TEAM VENTURE!!!
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Now that I think about it, I’m probably a bit too narcissistic and arrogant to allow my clone to be treated as a spare body. I’d regret killin’ my clone just so I could cling to life a little longer. If I die of an illness that could be prevented with the sacrifice of my clone, than I was too weak to survive in the 1st place…My clone will be stronger!
A soldier’s repressed sex drive is a major key to combat readiness.
Clone soldiers are all fine and good until someone makes them go Order 66 on your ass.
cloned or not they are still humans and should be treated as such
They could cut your head off and reattach it onto your clone. Or, in a decade or 2, they can upload your consciousness onto a CPU and use cybernetic surgery to download your consciousness into your clone’s brain, overwritin’ your clones consciousness.
Whether or not you would still be you depends on whether or not you believe in souls.
I don’t think souls has anything to do with that.
If we made a clone of hitler it wouldn’t be the same because he’d have to experience the same experiences and crafting to make him such.
So if you are truly you then you are who you say you are.
Since science has yet to, and is far from mastering what gives humans personality or how to dictate it in definite terms, mentally, your clone would be a completely different person who would grow to be *similar *to you or may very well change into a being who detests you.
On a mental level, a clone is a completely different person and thus, it would be unethical to create one for the sole purpose of limb and organ harvesting. It would also be a criminal and economic hassle to let it live. I know they are cloning limbs and organs of the backs of lab rats so it’s best to work with that. Full-on human cloning, while possible even in this time, would be unleashing a force we could never control. You don’t have to be a Christian to have morals
Souls have a lot to do with what I just said. Which was, they could download a replica of his consciousness and all his memories into a cybernetically enhanced brain, which would technically make the clone, “him” all over again.
Whether or not he would consider himself alive depends on whether or not he would deem a complete mental and physical copy of himself a continuation of his own life. By definition, it would. Spiritually however, what made him who he was is gone.
That’s what I’m saying. Real life Konami code up in this bitch!!!
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Ask me again how I feel about cloning if I ever lose my legs or my dick/balls.
Regardless of ethics, cloning must be perfected to this degree before I would ever consider participating.
what i mean is that me the nick that loves marvel 2, if you cloned me. the clone would have its own experiences and beliefs. if i could transfer MY “self” to the clone then bring it on. otherwise ill be jealous of myself living on
Oh god there are going to be more fucking people.
And not original people, but repeats. Has beens.
Binary Domain went a step further than the Ghost in the Shell with this sort of thing and had a story on robots having babies that could not be determined to be different than a regular human baby. Government people wanted them all dead.