I mostly agree with you. I also don’t like how a lot of the characters in SF3 were weird. What I liked about SF2 was that the cast was diverse and different. You had two karate guys, an army guy, a sumo, a wrestler, etc. SF2 also had a feeling of realism, more than SF3, because most of the characters you could see in real life. I don’t know if Capcom stereotyped or generalized every character in SF2, but they did a good job in designing the cast. But by the time SF3 was released, most of us had stopped playing anyways. So even if some or most of the SF2 cast had returned, it wouldn’t have made that much difference in my opinion.
as long as yun is there i’m ok i can live without ken GEN EI JIN
It just wouldn’t feel like a Street Fighter without Ryu (it’d be like Tekken without Heihachi, which would never hapoh, shit…). Seriously, though, if you’re going to replace the entire cast, you might as well just give the game a new title too.
Plus, story-wise, I thought it was great in 3S how Ryu was the boss for a lot of characters, since he won SF2 (unless I’m mistaken). And it makes sense that he’d enroll in another SF tournament, considering that he’ll probably never stop fighting for the rest of his life.
Ryu and Ken are the main characters, Street Fighter 3 would have been alien to the series without the two “Shotokan” warriors. Street Fighter just wouldn’t be the same without them.
In fact lets not call it street fighter as the 2 greatest street fighters won’t be in it
Why don’t they just start a new series. Like SFNG (Street Fighter, New Generation) and then you can go from there. Any favorites can just be added to the old series which will continue.
If this idea is just crazy, my escuse is:
“My sister came on and decided to type this for fun to make myself look bad.”
Cheers
ha ha ha! Nice try, too bad your sister is right here with me! :razzy:
I said it in a smiliar thread but here’s my 2 cents.
I think Capcom would have gotten away with an entirely new cast if they hadn’t made people wait so long for SF3. A LOT of people were into fighters and SF2. Hell back in the early 90’s fighters were pretty much what defined gaming, and SF2 was the king. If Capcom would’ve struck while the iron was hot rather than giving 3 upgrades for an exisiting game, no one would have cared about an all new cast.
Personally I don’t see anything wrong with a mixture of old and new. Emphasis on the new though, would be nice.
Ummm, the main problem I see is that people want NEW SPRITES, NEW CHARACTERS, and etc… Hence why people hate CFJ. Then people want OLD CHARACTERS back, which is why SOME people hate SF3.
Lets just add them both? It may take forever, but at least everyone’s happy.
Oh, and my sister’s not at your house. Thats my mom, stupid. I’m not as think as you dumb I am
But yeah, the next SF would be better with old and new fighters. Ken and Ryu should be standard, Akuma should be a secret character/boss, and Chun Li should be retired. TS was a step in the right direction, but you can’t please everyone so Capcom shouldn’t even try. Just make the game, make it good and make it feel like something new and we’ll play it.
Who gives a shit about the storyline. As long as the gamplay is tight (3rd Strike for example) then that is all that matters.
Actually you might be surprised, I get the impression that a lot of fans care about the story aswell as the gameplay, the comic has a fairly large following and the animes were pretty popular, just don’t mention the movie and also a fair bit of fuss seems to be made around here every now and then about the Canon plot.
You know…for someone who’s name has SNK, you should know a game like KoF has an intricate story, and that story causes which characters should be in the game or not. And for your info…a game with no story is shallow and redundant. Thank god Capcom and SNK implement stories, look at Virtua Fighter 1, barely ANY story and it was a very boring game.
It’s pretty pathetic coming from most of you on what you wanted SF3 to be. People want something new…Capcom gave them somthing new, but only 4 characters were old characters. And yet somehow people managed to even nit pick that.
It’s no use pleasing any of the idiots here, because it just seems people would rather have Ryu/Ken or a 98% similar version of them in a different character…but DIFFERENT. Capcom tried to deviate from the norm, rather than rehashing characters (ala Cammy, Juni, Juli) or borrowing them from another series (aka Final Fight, Other SFs) and what happens?
Someone spits in their face saying ‘OMFG this ain’t a charge character’ or WTF? Is this a grappler or not?
You give people what they want and they spit in your face regardless of you actually giving what they want. In any other game, Twelve would have soiled people’s pants, but the second their little minds go into “OH NO FREAKS IN SF PLZ” mode, suddenly SF3 is trash to them.
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kof has a very hard to follow plot at times, especially when taking into account that there’s always endings that contradict each other
fighting games tend to have indecipherable plots for two reasons, both of them stemming from them coming from japan:
- poor translation (the biggest offender here is snk)
- outside non-game material never ported outside its native japanese. no mooks or guides with in depth story explanation.
you see, that’s the whole thing right there.
They make one of the biggest grossing arcade games of all time single handedly reviving arcades.
People want a sequel for 10 years and you give them a piece of garbage game.
Sorry it’s true sf3 maybe a cool game but it’s not a streetfighter game
Try using the same tactics you did in sf2 in sf3 and get your ass owned.
Not only that instead of putting in the old classics they put in characters that have a mish mash of old characters moves.
They should have just given fans what they wanted at least for one sequel it didn’t have to be the same game but parry just outright blows, they coul dhave put airblock dash whatever but parry just totally changes the game.
I’ll say it again, sf3 is not a real streetfighter game, sf is about dealing with your opponent’s strategies viscant once said that you dont’ have to think on how to deal with a opponent’s attack you just press foward.
If it was a real sf game people would have liked it when it first came out but now it’s appreciated for what it is, it’s a good game but it’s still not sf.
Hey but i don’t play sf3 on a competitive level but i still think alot of people would agree that SF3 is nothing like SF2 , hell CvS2 and most snk games are more like the original.
They created a bunch of story lines and they won’t even resolve anything.
They even created a back story to the back story (Alpha series)
After all this build up they skip ahead a decade and forget about the rest.
People wanted to see what happened to their favorite characters, people wanted a REAL sequel, and that should include most of the old characters.
What’s the point of adding in new characters if they play so much like the old ones?
It’s all close range combat or running away in 3s they eliminated the fire ball which was one of the key elements in the first street fighter.
I personally would have liked to have seen Sf2 redone with cvs graphics for each char for the anniversary edition along with a attempt to balance the game.
But that wasn’t going to happen cuz capcom waited to long to release sf3 and when they did it was garbage, sf3 new generation was garbage and not only that it didn’t have what everyone wanted the real street fighter cast.
SF3: 3s is a good game but it will never be a SF2 it will never even be a real street fighter game despite sharing the same name and few of the same characters simply because of how parry changes the game so drastically.
Yea you can’t parry everything , no one can, but the possibility of a parry alters the game so much and the lack of a fireball eliminates distance games which was a key element in streetfighter.
The fact that SF3 didn’t have that many familiar SF2 faces was its downfall. The new cast weren’t that unique or original to begin with, some good designs but overall they can’t compare to the SF2 cast.
What Capcom could’ve done is call the game something other than Street Fighter and exclude Ryu and Ken, but since they didn’t do that they should’ve had at least 40%-60% of the cast as returning characters.
If SF4 didn’t have that many familiar faces it will most probably fail.
I’m all for change and innovations, adding new people, whatever else. But I feel that you can’t call the game “Street Fighter” without any ties to the previous games. SF isn’t just about the game itself. It’s about the characters and the story and the design. Mario Bros. wouldn’t be Mario Bros. without them, even if the gameplay was exactly the same.
Believe it or not, the Street Fighter series has a very deep storyline and this is probalbly why many of the SF2 characters did not return.
For example:
Blanka found his mom. He lives happily ever after
Fei Long becomes an even more famous movie star
Guile went home and became a family man
Vega keeps an eye on Cammy
Cammy is… doing something else
Balrog could possibly be Q (it is hinted at a few times, but no one is sure)
Bison was killed
Sagat is old and doesn’t have anything against Ryu now.
E. Honda is training more students to become famous Sumo wrestlers.
I forget about the other characters but Ken, Ryu, and Akuma have solid reasons for returning.
Ryu is always training for a good fight
Ken is Sean’s mentor and is Ryu’s rival
Akuma is looking for a worthy opponent who can actually stand a chance against him
The story has a lot to do with who returns and who doesn’t. I’m not sure about Chun-Li… her story had almost nothing to do with anything besides rescuing a child.
i don’t remember anything about sagat throwing in the towel.
He’s still out for revenge.
Most of the endings didn’t actually happen.
Akuma and ryu’s relationship still hasn’t been resolved neither has the “who’s really stronger”.
It’s been hinted at that he’s his father but we can never know.
I mean think about it,
Sagat, Balrog, Vega, Bison endings didn’t happen so why would each of those happen.
Guile most likely never beat up bison, look at the sf movie he got beat hard, in fact so did ken + ryu in that one.
They have left alot unresolved and skipped ahead 10 years.
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sagat and ryu need to settle their score and so do ryu akuma.