Can anyone compare input lag test on panthera new firmware ver. vs te2+ plz ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEQQbCPOuaI
RAZER PANTHERA (1.01.00) COUNTER HIT LAG TEST
by Carlo Dela Cruz/The Phantomnaut
Game was The King of Fighters XIV using Gang-Il’s far standing D. The test was done with a spare input wire connected to both arcade stick’s O button. Each stick competing against the Panthera was tested three times in 20-hit sessions (60 hits total).
Mad Catz Arcade FightStick TE2:
Test 1: 14 trades, 6 Panthera counter hits, 00 TE2 counter hits
Test 2: 14 trades, 5 Panthera counter hits, 1 TE2 counter hit
Test 3: 10 trades, 10 Panthera counter hits, 00 TE2 counter hits
TOTAL: 38 trades, 21 Panthera counter hits, 1 TE2 counter hit
Qanba Obsidian:
Test 1: 14 trades, 6 Panthera counter hits, 00 Obsidian counter hits
Test 2: 16 trades, 4 Panthera counter hits, 00 Obsidian counter hits
Test 3: 14 trades, 6 Panthera counter hits, 00 Obsidian counter hits
TOTAL: 44 trades, 16 Panthera counter hits, 00 Obsidian counter hits
Brook Universal Fighting Board (firmware V1.8):
Test 1: 19 trades, 00 Panthera counter hits, 1 UFB counter hit
Test 2: 20 trades, 00 Panthera counter hits, 00 UFB counter hits
Test 3: 17 trades, 00 Panthera counter hits, 3 UFB counter hits
TOTAL: 56 trades, 00 Panthera counter hits, 4 UFB counter hits
Hey @noodalls, I have a quick question. Is the Brook UFB the same as the Brook ps4 fightboard? I understand they both have different functions, but do they perform the same on ps4?
Please excuse my ignorance, but is that pretty close? Or, considering I saw there’s a few nils at 7 and 8ms, showing missed inputs meaning the UFB is way better?
I’m planning to do a video soon explaining some of the more detailed conclusions that can be drawn from this data. Basically, if the misses occur around the time when it is going from +2F to +3F, you could just assume that they were +3F but just missed the window. From my understanding there is a reason that the UFB doesn’t have misses (at least on PS3 and PS4) but it’s a bit more complicated than it is worth going into yet.
There is about 6-7ms difference between them as per this test. My usual explanation is, if you are playing your friend and he has a UFB, and you have the PS3PS4 board, for the times when both push the button at exactly the same time, his input will come out 1F faster just over 35% of the time and at the same time just under 65% of the time (7/16.66). Not the only determining factor in who wins etc. etc.
That’s not too bad. Thanks for the explanation!
I also think that panthera is the best stick among PS4 license sticks as @MarkMan23 says.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZ5J4ZHXzx3uvNUiAYguN97N_hUnX_4wD
I think it is best to choose updated Panthera.
Since HAYABUSA can not be purchased outside Japan.
Don’t the newer (i.e. pc switch) HRAP4Kai use the same PCB as the Hayabusa 2017? And no way to know now but I also assume the T7 hori sticks will also use the same pcb. Granted the audio port could mean a different pcb with different timings so again, who knows on that.
Either way, that’s really impressive from Razer, awesome to see them try to improve their stick with firmware updates, and what a huge improvement it was.
Hori has stated that the new T7 stick will have the same response speed as the 2017 version.
HRAP N H
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8RtK64LIwc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPYRHZwaO9U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYrCy_xCfl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twzeusp5Otc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_PwEnA-B2c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVJf8Yso5Zw
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[/quote]That’s shocking. Has Nintendo created a system where wired peripherals are “second-class citizens” and undergo extra processing or what? O.o
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PS4 also the same with the newer DS4’s that have an option to be used in wired-mode.
FWIW The Panther I had tested with more input latency then my Hori pad hacked sticks and even Xbox 360 PCB via a brook sniper w/both the original firmware and updated firmware. I don’t have a MCZ TE2 but apparently that’s a stick that it’s faster then. Lots of Top 64 players in EVO this year were using the stick and brook converters so the difference in input latency can’t account for much overall.
Test result times are in the description:
•https://youtu.be/GW_1reU0Rxo
•https://youtu.be/CbeEQ70BigI