I’m not a perfect player but choosing an character that fits my style helped. It just happened to be Seth :shy:
With a bit of Ryu,Viper and Cammy.
i still don’t get it for online at least, it messes up my timing with lag
First of you probably need someone to play with who probably should play your character and is willing to help you. Also just go to training mode and crack a few hours a day practicing your execution.
As for me i’ve been playing Sf for a while and went pretty competitive about a year and a half ago. So this game isnt all that hard to “get” but at the same time im no where near perfect. It about experience and effort imo
Hm, I think you have improved. At least think you do. I have the game for 3 weeks and am improving every day, cause of reading frame data’s, new better punishers.
Even if you just have learned that, better ways to do more damage, and that kinda stuff, you improved.
Unless you really have some kinda disorder I doubt you would be the exact same as Feb. I always feel the same as well (Even though I have only have the game for 3 weeks) But my sparring bud says I improved so I guess so.
You just might not notice it Idk.
I just recently in 1 day learned tooons of stuff in training mode. Finally using different combo’s, then the scrubbish Jump RT, down RT, and new ways to connect stuff, and better punishings, because of reading and trying out with attack data.
But yea as the rest said, its all about the sparring partners that are very good to help you improve. Cause I can see how online doesn’t get you the ‘‘LEVEL Up’’ that you need. Although you do get tons of experience.
If you’re losing all the time, ask one of your regular sparring partners why they keep beating you, and what your biggest flaws are.
The other night I played a beginner (flowchart Ken) and told him his biggest flaw was that he never blocked low and relied too much on wakeup reversals. I proved it to him by beating him several matches in a row by just using crouching roundhouse. Eventually he started blocking and his game improved slightly.
Recently I felt like I have been improving a lot. I am also on the verge of getting into G1, so I thought I would write down some of my thoughts.
I main Akuma, so one mistake can literally cost me 50% of my hp. I realized that the way to be an effective Akuma is to keep putting pressure on the opponent. If you are attacking the other player and constantly forcing them to defend, your low HP will not be a big deal. If you take a look at the really good Seth players, you do not see them turtling during the fight - they keep attacking from all angles with crazy set ups/mix-ups. The caveat is you have to get good enough so that you are not getting killed when attacking the other person…
(^this may not be applicable to your particular char, see below)
Which brings me to mix-ups. Having a strong mix-up game IMO is the key to winning.
If I knock another player down I can do the following: cross over into B&B combo, cross over hurricane into SRK, empty jump in and throw,cross over throw, dive kick into B&B, cross over dive kick into B&B, demon flip into air-throw, block until they stand up and then jab-jab-throw or punish if they whiff…etc. You need to have a staple of moves that you can bring out so that the other person cannot guess what you are going to do. If you are doing the same cross over every time, you will get worked. If all your attacks are easy to predict, you have already lost.
(this is applicable for all chars)
Learn/read/figure out a strategy for every match up – this is key. (I still have trouble against a good Chun-li.)
Your execution needs to be on point.
You have to learn FADC…if you have not, go hit training mode for hours until you do.
This is what works for me. I hope this helps.
You know man, this may be the best post I’ve ever read. A lot of people on this forum say things like “Practice more!” or “Try learning from your mistakes!”, which don’t really mean anything, but this is one piece of advice that I think can really help a person.
If I could rep you , I totally would.
I’ve always wondered how long till someone is at 75%+ execution I feel like I’m 30%, but then again I got SF4 and my joystick the day it came out so roughly a few months of practice with a 1 month of not playing. I wanna be at 100% execution or at least 75% its so frustrating.
Took me around late july? That’s like almost 5 months after release? XD I still think I need more work though >_>
Flawless victory.
THIS
If you’re lucky like me and have a decent local arcade scene get out there and play. I find players at the arcade are much more skilled knowing their mixups, crossups execution etc. Best of all i find at the arcade players use a variety of characters. Every time I play say 10 games in one day at the arcade I find that i have improved more than I would have playing 2 months worth of matches online. Best of all no lag!
I come from Tekken Tag/4/5 world and had no 2d fighter experience to speak of… except for playin SF II at arcade when I was a kid. I got decent at SF IV in about 2 months (Sakura and Viper are my mains… use Rufus as an alt). This game doesn’t offer anything in the form of mind games to me… and the requirements for move input and fundamental movement of characters are a joke. It’s very easy to perform 35-50%+ combos. It’s a gun fight… one or two mistakes and the match is over (or you’re severely crippled).
If you wanna get better at the game… learn to break throws, learn to play solid defense; and learn a couple WTFBBQ damage combos with your character… and just wait to punish.
If you’re using a character with difficult stuff or are low tier (viper, gen,???, sak, vega, rose)… maybe think about picking up a character whose moves are easy to execute and/or offer high easier damage (Sagat, Balrog, Guile, Blanka, Gief, Ryu, Ken to name a few).
Another trick you can use to get better… go into championship mode and practice how long you can last without attacking your opponent… try to make it to the end of the clock without dying and hitting your opp. as few times as possible. I guarantee you’ll end up with solid defense. People care about their championship rank… so it’s perfect place to practice defense against someone who’s genuinely trying to beat you and rank up… you can’t do that against a CPU.
If you can’t win… oh well… fighting games aren’t for everyone.
- Sugarfoot
I thought I had a firm grasp of the game until I realized I was just a big fish in a really small pond. Playing the same folks over and over again really stunted my growth as a player. Get out there and play total strangers!
I’m in the NorCal Sillicone Valley and just recently discovered that an arcade near me had SFIV…AND crackfiend and his crew play there. Sufficed to say, I got a swift ass kicking with a huge helping of humble pie, but I’ll tell you, my eyes were opened.
I agree with TheRetroKid - Play total strangers! It helps ALOT. I used to always play with a couple of friends and one of them stopped playing me for a week while he played a bunch of championship matches online. One week later he came back and started whooping up on me with new strategies and combinations. I play a lot more championship mode now.
took me awhile too man. Damn.
I still don’t get it
Try the below.
15 years…
I “get” the game, I just suck at it.
Malcolm Gladwell, in his book Outliers, repeats the theory that to become an expert at anything takes 10,000 hours.
That works out as an hour and a half each day since I first bought SF2 in 1992.
Not quite there.