How do you stop corner noobs with M.bison

Classic Fighting Games Ultra Street Fighter IV
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I’m not a noob i’m B+ ranked with bison but the problem is I always run into these idiots and alot of times lose the match just imagine your playing a ranked match and your up against a ryu,ken or guile player whos does nothing but run into the other corner and fire hadoken/sonic boom then stand in the corner

1.you can chase them but you will just run into sonic kick and shoryukens
2.you can try head stop but then you get spin kicks/shoryukens and guile can air grab you
3.dont even bother teleporting after the hadoken their punches have priority and its faster

Remember assume they’re playing cheap and using 1-3 moves the entire match I recently lost a match to a C+ ken just because he spent the entire match jump spin kicking I got restless and had to chase him I checked the match up guide for ideas but remember their in the corner

*I just found my tv tuner so i’ll try to upload the match to show you what I mean

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I’m not sure what you mean by corner noobs.

Just jump up (vertical) over fireballs and walk them slowly to the corner. When you get close harass them a little with standing medium kick or standing heavy kick. Sit back a little, LK Knee Press, or EX-Knee Press if you have the meter.

M.Bison is probably like one of the most space oriented character in the game. He has long reaching limbs and moves for a reason. And he can fly around a lot of empty space with Devil’s and Head Press/Skull Diver.

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I think he means by ppl who just do random shit when you pressure them with Bison, oppose to someone who might block and will wait for an opening but u know those online dudes just do some random shit to get outta of pressure.

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I think I know the type of player you’re talking about. I had trouble with them as well until I improved my corner game. I know you think you’re not a noob, but if you’re getting beaten by this tactic then I’m afraid that at least in one particular aspect of the game - you are.

Read the stickies, improve your knowledge. Bison has a great corner game and if they’re cornering themselves for you, then you should have no trouble winning these matches.

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Your entire goal should be to push them into the corner. That place is shadowloo territory.

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I don’t know what you mean by cheap either, if you have morals on how everyone should fight your gonna spend more time calling shit cheap than rising to the level and gettiing more consistent wins. MAKE your opponent respect you and if they never learn don’t stop, if you get what im saying.

Also people do random shit against bison, Kim1234 said it the best bad players do random shit against bison cause they don’t know, good players do random shit against bison cause they do know.

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uhh just block and wait between pokes then punish with full focus attack + combo?

empty dash-ins just outta throw range wouldn’t hurt either, if you know they’re random.

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if you’re walking a dude into the corner and he’s fucking you up, you mistake who the noob is

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helpful as always.

When you’ve got them in the corner, try not to create any continuity in your corner play. If he doesn’t tech your knockdown, throw in some whiff cr mp, use meaties, neutral jumps, tick throws etc. The idea is to make those reversals useless.

Another effective technique is to walk a few steps back as they rise to avoid reversals completely but not step out of range to punish.

If at any point your opponent “knows” what to expect in the corner, his reversals become effective.

It’s not always advantagous, but you can cross up and put yourself in the corner and as long as you have a decent block string, you can tick throw them back into the corner… But, if he likes spamming DP reversals, odds are the throw will be punished.

Good luck.

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ok, easy

walk him into the corner, nuetral jump over the fireballs. do not walk under his jump ark. stand just outside of it. try to imagine it in your head.
wait for him to do something stupid like jump at you. depending on the situation you will then srh, nuetral jump rh, jmp into sfp reset.

rince and repeat until you get the knockdown. once hes knocked down in the corner, bait him to do something stupid, like a dp with no bars. if he doesn’t, don’t panic, keep your spacing, harass with srh until you think they’ll jump at you again, then anti air them with jump nuetral rh or jmp.

guys like that i find will always want to jump straight up to bait a naked scissors kick or jump forward hoping to hit you or to get out. keep your down charge if you happen to be scissor pressuring him, and if you feel they will jump, greet them with a ex headstomp for huge damage. if they don’t jump and just block your headstomp, pretend to come back in for purple hands, but land midscreen, they will dp, miss, and you will kill them. if they don’t dp, they’re still in the corner and you walk back in and continue the bison game.

go to 40 seconds, you will see what i mean with the HS thing http://youtu.be/6k2PqCwVBuw

just be patient, they will die for locking themselves in the corner. they did you a favor.

if they tatsu out and hit you, remember they will do it again. once you have them back in the corner, remember that. next time he does it to get out, greet him with an ultra for his troubles.

if you find yourself being jumped at and you have to block, just block, cr tech everything, don’t mistime it, you will get thrown. keep defending until you see the pattern and hit him back.

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will I walk myself into corner, but most time I was at same room with GIEF/HONDA/ABEL/CHUN/GUILE…
those BS people is not shadowloop friendly. beware.

I think when bison need to chase people that he is at his weakest point, what can we do to get in; freely?
almost nothing if they know how to react and punish it, devil reverse can punish by many move/ex move by reaction.
dic got good noraml but not godly like chun…and EX PC? just jump and kick it out, head stomp? walk back or neutral jump.

I prefer get some chip damage and sit out, but this is not working with Guile and his imba air grab while walking back for some sonic broom is getting in my nerves, even corner game, guile just too solid to crack in some case, only few good trap can make it even but just 1 flash kick make him even again.

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you’re doing something wrong if you let guile walk you into the corner man, the point is to trap him so you can mount some sort of an offense when he makes a mistake trying to keep you out… once you knock him down, hes in trouble. im not saying its easy at all, but you’re playing it wrong if you’re letting guile corner you…

this video kinda shows what i mean when guile gets corner locked. this was a few months back before i stopped playing to try mvc3, so i wasn’t as solid, but i had the idea…

YouTube - SSFIV Bison (BI) vs Random Guiles (GI)

bison shouldn’t need to chase anyone, he walks up and traps them, uses his normals to keep people outside, and waits for mistakes to get in.

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to add to the what to do when someone is in the corner. i’ve provided a video demonstration of a few of my recent matches against a ken player i was playing against. hopefully it will give you guys an idea of what to do once you have someone locked in the corner.

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Niiiiiiiiiice. Very well played man.

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thx bro
the video also shows the various situational ways you can anti-air with bison
i’ve started to incorporate cr.hp into the AA arsenal recently. i don’t recommend using it at first until you are familiar with bisons other anti airs.

it comes out very slow and requires good anticipation and reaction to the jump. hopefully soon i can have videos of me using it in sets.

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Learn a lot from this thread, unfortunately I’m one of who feel f**ked up when fighting these corner players.

Thanks a lot.

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Just looking for this thread.Facing the same problems after putting them in the corner and anti air when they jump out.I find myself either had a bad position or bad timing with normals,sometimes don’t have the charge to use ex.Neutral jump rh got beaten by opponent’s early jumping attack.Learned a lot. BTW how to use focus attack to do more corner pressure?I use focus frequently but either to release attack or forward dash cancel got hit.How can I know they are not going to do random shit…If dash backward and they don’t use uppercut,they just walk out and push me back to get out of the corner.

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build meter by doing a devil reverse all day and then ex scissor kick yourself in there… or advace slowly with a couple of jumps then wait for the next projectile and do a focus dash and grab…

If your close enough you can also do a standing medium kick that will hit before their projectile shoots…once your in you will have the advantage since they are pinned in the corner