How do you deal with a 40 hour work week?

You start your own business so that at the very least, you’re the primary beneficiary of your labor.

The real issue isn’t the 40+ hours, it’s that you’ll never be the boss. You’ll never be the one getting the real money that you and your co-workers make possible w/ your labor. The hope is that you either get comfortable enough in the money you’re making or too scared to quit to do anything about it.

I’ve said the same in other threads. I really don’t understand how folks can be so happy w/ jobs they don’t like and by extension, at least so accepting of working for someone else. I’ve worked for and currently work for some amazing companies that anybody would enjoy and it’s still doesn’t help me accept that I work for someone else - on someone else’s schedule, taking instruction from people who (most of the time) don’t know any more than I do. And don’t get me started on the politics and pettiness.

I’m working on my own company, hired a well known comic book artist to get one of my projects off and running. Hopefully in 2 years I’ll be completely independent and my own boss.

Damon Dash, is that you?

I don’t like the dude’s personality, but I’ve always agreed w/ his views on topics like this.

That Breakfast club interview was legendary hahaha. But like @CTG said. That dude is speaking truth. But he’s such an asshole about it that his message gets lost because peeps are too focused on how he tells it rather than what he’s telling. @CTG Also Dash seems to forget that he was able to start his own thing without working for others because he sold drugs and shit. Average person ain’t about that life nor born into any kind of money. So yeah most people are going to have to work for someone at some point in their life.

But people shouldn’t just settle for that though. That he is completely right about. Like me I’m working for someone because I’m a youngster and don’t really have any knowledge, skill, experience or captiol that would allow me to start a business and run it successfully. But after working in my field for a few years and picking up somethings while stacking my money. Should an opportuity to start my own business come my way. I’ll be ready to jump on it.

i think a level of challenge is necessary in work. it keeps you on your toes and it keeps it from being monotonous. if youre doing it just to grind, it’ll quickly eat away your soul and then you wont enjoy a single thing in life.

ive been saving money for land, so i can go be a hermit who hopefully eventually forgets what capitalism even is

Wow, is 9/hr an average wage in the US?

Genuinely confused, Maccas here in Aus is like 15 and retail is maybe 20.

As for the other comments about opening your own business, I can agree with the freedom and being your own boss parts. However, I think that owning your own business comes with a fair measure of risk, and not being able to bring food to the table if you fail.

That is a stress that I see a family friend of ours struggle with, because ultimately your own small business isn’t going to be as stable as slaving for a major bank, or IT firm, just as an example.

Us wages are fucked. Minimum should be $15/hour. The only reason i can afford my apartment is cause my mom and my uncles own the building and my rent is stupid cheap

50-60hrs, high stress enviorment.

smoke pot. that’s it.

live in a tiny house \o/

Yeah this was the biggest issue at my last job. Petty bosses are the worst especially when they aren’t competent. Constantly hamstringing competent employees to validate their own self worth.

Pretty positive the only reason I was in the layoffs at my company was after restructuring I got put under a guy who got demoted for being incompetent due to a report I had to do on his work showing his laziness was losing the company millions and potentially tens of millions in opportunity costs. Never had a bad review then magically I’m responsible for shit that happened on rigs I was never on when I was on vacation. When shit like that starts getting filed and people are eating it up the writing is pretty clearly spelled out on the wall.

Pettiness is just not something I’m capable of as a human being, I don’t understand people’s mindsets when they get like that.

itd be interesting to see how this discussion would sit within different cultures and countries

Well it’s simple. I got my degree after years of hardwork and work in a pharmacy.

Do i gamble on a failing economy and having no life outside work. Or do i work and enjoy my life outside it.

Some people are business minded. Some people are cogs in the machine. I am a well paid cog in a profession thay pays super well in a position where i can retire full benefits at 55.

But we need police, fireme, waiters, janitors, etc to get the work done.

For me in my line of work we all have bosses. The biggest being the irs because they take or money.

But hey good on you for that entrpreneureal spirit. Look at reallity and look at what’s in front of you.

Fuck ever opening a business. I am good with my money coming every two weeke and earning a high salary with the affordable great insurance.

Money and security are all you look for in a profession when you reach a certain age you see this as something you really strive for in anything

funny thing about that interview was how he was saying it in front of murda mook.

no one called him out on this but what if all the people who run rap battle leagues decided to stop? thats the same as having a boss

I used to work 40 hour-a-week jobs for years. The last job I had was in Systems Analytics, doing mostly easy, meaningless tasks: I spent about 10 of those hours doing useful work. It was an unfulfilling bore, but the pay was pretty good. I was so good at it, that I’d have little to do after lunch time aside from the occasional meeting.

Now I work for myself in finance. When I started, I worked about 60-hours a week. Now, it’s around 35. As I get better, I’ll be able to work as much or as little as I need/want. Being your own boss is challenging, and not having that steady paycheck creates new types of pressure, but it is much more rewarding and liberating.

I highly recommend it.

lol @ this Damon Dash interview. the first 25 minutes were brutal. @“Spinning Beat” if you haven’t watched it you should check it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxspDuW3LDw

I work in healthcare. 40 hours a week plus anywhere from 10-25 hours of on-call time depending if the hospital I’m employed at needs me. All I can say is those who are either young enough to live at home with their parents or are blessed not to have to work 40+ hours a week, ENJOY IT!

Working so much sucks balls.

In other countries, you work to live life. You don’t live to become a cubicle asshole slave. Nothing wrong with working hard, but I’ve seen too many 70+ years old lonely motherfuckers who are resentful as hell when they see a young engineer and they have nothing to retire to. That’s just $0.02.

China:

New grads earn maybe 2k/mo in the big cities? (Beijing, Shanghai) Not sure what the average costing house is, but my grandparents’ tiny ass unit costs 6mil RMB, at maybe medium distance to the city centre?

It’s like literally unaffordable to try and come to a big city if you’re from the countryside. To afford a house, you need your parents’ savings too.

And so if you visit the big cities you have people who live in these basement flats which were previous bike parking sheds.

As for Aus, where I live: it’s the same as every other western country (aka cubicle slave), tho I hear Syd has House prices matching NY soon. Fun days.

If minimum wage increases then so will prices. Every other job will raise their pay in competition. Why work overnight stocking for $15 when I can be a cart pusher for $15? Its not that easy, idk why people keep wanting it to go up.

and Australia pays good