How can i make a ls-56 longer in a TE?

Cider · January 11, 2012, 10:42pm

I think the ls-56 has an MS mounting plate which mounts fine in my TE but the shaft is shorter than the JLF and i want it to be longer. It doesnt look my ls-32s SS plate will attach to my ls-56. Any ideas?

Darksakul · January 11, 2012, 11:45pm

The LS-32 SS plate will not fit the LS-56
You need a SS plate made for LS 40, 55 and 56

GeorgeC · January 11, 2012, 11:48pm

There is no SS Mounting plate for the LS-56 series. The only thing I can see working besides modding the joystick base to mount higher OR modding the faceplate mount is getting a shaft extension.

(Only the LS-32, LS-40, and LS-58 series are compatible with SS Mounting plates. Even then, people recommend using the LS-56-01 stock VF mounting plate for the HRAP 3 joysticks or the P-40/MS Mounting plates for the TE/HRAP SA’s.)

Shaft extensions are sold at several online parts vendors. Most extensions involve complete shaft replacements. Unfortunately, complete shaft replacements are only available for the JLF and LS-32. You’d have to use a shorter screw-on shaft extender.

eTokki.com and Shadaloo.eu both sell extenders for the JLF and LS-32.

I’d get the bare alloy LS-32 version. It matches up better with the shaft-covered LS-40, -55, and -56 joysticks. They all use the same shaft cover which makes them roughly equivalent in thickness to an LS-32. I’ve got this extension for the LS-40’s in my AH2 joystick and white HRAP 3. Except for the bare alloy ‘color’, they screw on and fit the LS-40’s well. I actually had to ‘drop’ the LS-40’s a bit lower by using washers as spacers…! The sticks feel a bit weird this way but you can get used to them. At least I have more room to maneuver my stick hand than I did beforehand!

The only thing is that the shaft extenders are 12-15mm long depending on who you buy from. Shadaloo sells the longer extension.

Right now, all the extensions sold are bare alloy. eTokki used to sell a black-painted extension that could be used with shaft-covered JLF’s or LS-32’s (with modded JLF shafts).

If you hate bare alloy extensions, they could always be painted or powder-coated later.

Cider · January 11, 2012, 11:53pm

Where do they sell ss plates for the ls56. Cant find it anywhere.

Darksakul · January 11, 2012, 11:55pm

try http://www.akihabarashop.jp/

seqo · January 12, 2012, 1:19am

The LS-56 shaft has just 0,5 mm less than JLF shaft, almost the same size!

Cider · January 12, 2012, 1:28am

Where do they sell ss plates for the ls56. Cant find it anywhere.

Are you sure? I have it in my stick right now and its considerably lower.

jdm714 · January 12, 2012, 1:48am

Yes, there is for the LS-56-01.
It is the SS Mounting Plate P-40.

LS-33, LS-55, LS-56, LS-58 all use share Mounting Plates.

LS-40 Mounting Plate will only work with LS-32.

Cider · January 12, 2012, 2:22am

Please link where i can find the SS Mounting Plate P-40 for ls56. I cant find anything on google.

RoboKrikit · January 12, 2012, 2:29am

http://www.akihabarashop.jp

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jdm714 · January 12, 2012, 2:37am

The only place I know right now is buying LS-58-01 from Gremlin Solutions.

RoboKrikit · January 12, 2012, 3:35am

Oh, I see what you’re looking for now. I missed some of the LS-58-01 info when it came out a few months ago.

jdm714 · January 12, 2012, 3:53am

Here you go.

From what I understood, mechanically the LS-56 and LS-58 are the same mechanically. The LS-58 has a medium instead of a heavy spring.
But that isn’t hard to change. Both sticks use many of the same parts as you can see here, courtesy of B15 LS 58 01 Thread and Questions

The huge difference comes in the shaft cover and dust washer. I not sure why the mount height is off on the LS-58 with the SS mount plate.

Because to get the standard height, a Mounting Plate that is flat is supposed to be used.
Like a LS-55-01 and LS-56-01, the LS-58-01 follows same.

LS-58-01 is based off the LS-56-01, so I don’t know how b15sdm did not know that.
To mount the LS-58-01 will use a Mounting Plate that is flat.

I believe this is because the LS-58 is meant to mount at the same height as a JLF using a P-40 plate.

The promotional advertisement flyer showed LS-58-01 using the P-40 Mounting Plate, yes.

We also know that the LS-55-01 and LS-56-01 have interchangeable MS and VF Mounting Plates.
We also know that the LS-58-01 is based of LS-56-01, so it goes that the MS and VF Mounting Plate can use also.

There exists an S-shape Mounting Plate for LS-58-01.
SS Mounting Plate, but not the same SS Mounting Plate as LS-32-01.
The SS Mounting Plate for LS-58-01 is just like the SS Mounting Plate for LS-32-01.
The difference is that the distanced screw holes for LS-58-01 is 10mm shorter than for LS-32-01.

Yes, the MS and VF and P-40 is 10mm shorter distanced also.
It is only way to fit on LS-33 and LS-55 and LS-56 and LS-58.

That is why those three Joysticks are known as Compact.

When order LS-58-01 from Seimitsu, there are four type to choose from.
LS-58-01-XX-VF (VF Mounting Plate)
LS-58-01-XX-MS (MS Mounting Plate)
LS-58-01-XX-SE (Seimitsu Mounting Plate P-40)
LS-58-01-XX-SS (SS Mounting Plate P-40)

XX being the color of Shaft Cover and Ball.

Because the [40] in P-40 means 40mm instead of 50mm.
40mm being the 10mm shorter than 50mm.

And there already exists a regular Seimitsu Mounting Plate (RE).
And there already exists a regular SS Mounting Plate (SE).
So the P-40 is added at the end.
Seimitsu say so.

I’m a little confused here. The P-40 plate and MS plate are both flat so they’ll mount the LS-58 at the same height in a stick with a universal bracket. Do you mean the S-plate for the LS-56/58 will mount the stick at roughly the same height as a JLF?

No, the SS Mounting Plate will mount the Joystick 6mm higher than JLF.

kubebot · January 15, 2012, 12:16am

I can feel the difference the op is talking about.
To correct the feeling, I usually use a battop on the LS-56 giving a bit more height.
I generally prefer ball tops, but in this case I dig the bat.