mitsu might be 5 times better with JUST iron man. he just knows what to do, if jwong was in tourney mode thought i dont think he would get hit as much as he did in those vids.
EDIT: imo=in my opinion so thats just an opinion, not fact like i was saying mag is better than bh.
ok to dasrik and blackestheart…im sorry for saying bh sucks…YO…my friend got into bh four days ago…and we’ve been playing consently ever since that day. i mean like 4 hours of marvel for four days. OMFG…BH IS A BITCH…MAG MANIAC…TRUST ME…im a fellow lover of mag…but BH IS A HARD BITCH TO RUSH DOWN…i was playing with mss all the…my friend was using team watson(bh,senti,capcom) and i find that without psylocke, bh doesn’t have to think twice about how he is going to come down from sj, hk. dash hk, etc., the only times i catch bh when he comes down without me having an anti air, is crossing him over by dashing under, lk,mk, senti pro aaa, continue. mag maniac find a bh player, play him for awhile, and you are going to see how bh can own mag, i thought just like you, ( how the fuck can bh beat MAG,no fucking way, mag is to fast, has infi.s, etc.) but damn, bh is rough. she is like the demon cable. if cable ever died and cameback to life, he would look like her…BLACKHEART IS BIACH.
gouki, im nowhere near new to this game. i’ve played with evo-worthy bh’s around here. ill explain what i do vs BH
ok, so bh isnt AS EASY to rushdown as cable. the way i do this is something like sentinel vs cable, mag being sentinel.
in the air, if commando isnt called, i do lp(quickly)xx ad f grab. use this in the corner. eventually you will corner bh, and he will look to sj and ad f out of there; dont let him do that. another thing is, if you’re using MSS rocket punch, thats great. BH cant defend his assist as good as most characters. try to do this as long as you can. c.lk+sent c.mk, dash c.hp sj 5 fierce combo cancel slide into sj. hp ad df hp. should take well over 80%. of course you might get interrupted, so try this a couple times. if you have SPARE METER (meaning 3 or more) u can do c.lk+sent c.mk shockwave.
if you sj at the same time with bh, you can throw in a disruptor while he throws demons, but use sparingly though, and dont get predictable. hyper gravs are ok, you just gotta know when to use them.
keep in mind the main thing you wanna do with mag to make the game a whole lot easier is snap the main character out. mag owns EXTRA hard when the opponent has no assist.
team watts really doesnt use meter well since you can get out of HOD and HSF these days. just dont get hit by one of those.
also dont give bh any room. if they try to even sj ad f mid screen - dont let them, you will have to try and start cornering them all over again. air hyper gravs are safe, if you’re a little under BH, and you think they are gonna air dash, hyper gravxxtempestxxdhc into storm (if they can mash good).
its not also a bad idea to use that air boomerange, if he tried to infernoxxHOD you, it will hit him out of it.
WHEN he is in the corner, dont let him out. s.lp, sj lk ad db hp, dash tri jump hk, he cant block forever - fuck him up. after lp ad db hp call storm, she covers ground, you got air.
and finally, when you hit, snap out, inf, (you may wanna throw a grab in there before you do this next move) j.lk+sent hpxxtempestxxhail = DONE.
its not as easy when you first play a good bh, but when you’re use to it its second nature. peace this guy out and make him learn some mag skills.
lol you sure live up to your title there pwner of justin wong
Maniac chill plz. At least try to recognize the fact that these people are actually respected players in the community that know what they are talking about. They play in tournaments. You aren’t breaking any rules currently so I won’t take any actions against you, but just for your sake I’d suggest listening a little more. BTW, I’m just letting you know, you’re annoying quite a few people, and I’ve gotten a few requests for your bannination. However, I’ll have to review your posts further before I take any actions. Again this is just a heads up so you might consider straightening up because you are starting to come off as a troll to me. You also have obviously never played a good BH, I have to go right now, but just right off I can tell you that BH doesn’t use judgement day other than to punish missed HSF. BH is 2nd tier for a reason, and he’s still just a valid character as rogue or the other 2nd tier are.
i could get banned for arguing? wow.
seriously you should watch it, i got banned on cv once because of that
You can get banned for trolling yea, and your lack of knowledge is so great that it makes me suspect you couldn’t possibly be as unintentionally wrong about this game as you seem to be. However, again I will explain that I’ve gotten requests for your ban by users that are annoyed by you because of you posting what’s perceived to be false information. You haven’t broken any actual rules yet, but I’m telling you that you don’t know as much as you seem to think you do, and your information isn’t as accurate as you may think it is. I won’t take any action against you for arguing, however if you are proven to be a troll then maybe then I can start taking action against you.
As a poster I will say that Dasrik is a good player as are the other respected players who have gone up against the best competition either locally or on a national level aswell. I’m not saying your post has no merit because you aren’t Ricky Ortiz or some other nationally or locally recognized player, I’m just saying that maybe your experiences with what’s assumed to be limited competition does not apply to everyone else and that highest level of competition. In other words just because what you do works with your local comp doesn’t mean it will work on people who actually are on that higher level. It’s like the guy who does the guile back breaker infinite on some local tilt scrubs, sure it may work for him against that competition, but he’s probably never played someone who knows how to roll or tech hit. There are people out there that can play BH very effectively, and there are people out there that won’t fall into your hands. I don’t want to discourage you from posting in this forum, however I do advise you to not assume you are the best simply because you beast on local arcade goers and also to not assume you know better than everyone else for no apparent reason.
Just simple flaws in your arguement that even me (not a nationally or even locally recognized player) can point out:
Air RH demons. BH also has extremely good light pokes like j. lk for example which I believe is called the “tail of jesus”. Just judging from my personal experience, you are not playing top of the line BH players. They generally don’t do air judgement day for chip, and they usually do a assist + Inferno xxx HOD to keep you from jumping away or the generally safer but less chippy inferno xxx ground judgement day. I’d have to agree with Dasrik that commando is much better at shutting down BH then sent -a is. Storm/Cable/Commando might give BH alot of grief I’d imagine being a BH player myself although probably not on the level Dasrik was and may very well still be. Just try to respect the fact that many of these players have played against very stiff competition and they are very likely to have alot of merit behind their advice. I don’t really appreciate you insulting them like that especially since you probably have no reason why we should even remotely consider your advice valid. You definantly have no wins over Wong I assume, and I’m not sure but I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone come around and vouch for your skills like I’ve seen for many other players. Again you don’t have to have come in 6th place in ecc or high profile tournament of your choice, but you can stand to at least show a little more respect to your fellow poster, especially those who’s credibility far exceed your own.
ok. i beat josh wigfall 2/3 when i played this game like every week. he recently beat me after i stopped for a while.
i never said i was the best as well.
RH air demons can get stopped if u sj and block it, shielding the armored sentinel from hitting commando. yes santhrax/storm/cable/commando is a lot easier to defeat bh with, but watts or bh/cable/commando does not shut down mss at all.
the reason why i dont go to ecc or go out to places like most of the top players do is because i am 14. still i have been playing these games since i was 5. so to me age has nothing to do with my posting or opinions. if i was around 17-20 or so, i would say i would be able to compete with the ny guys being able to travel to places.
anyways im not an mvc2 scrub, i know what im talking about. im telling this guy that if you learn mag and become GOOD with him, bh shouldnt be much of a problem.
again with the bh levels. i HAVE played GREAT bhs. trust me, the guy i know plays smart and is really good. its just that if mag hits its just over, simple as that, and to get that hit doesnt take as much effort as it is to do on sentinel.
EDIT:what false information? fast flying the lk with doom makes it a WHOLE LOT easier than timing it, i dont know a person who prefers to time it (which i believe discontinues the infinite on normal sized characters at a point)
You sure seemed to be pretty disrespectful before. There are alot of good blackhearts, and I am still not convinced of everything you say. You just so happening to be some supposed mvc2 prodigy is something I’d at least put in the maybe pile. I still suggest you respect what some known players (some of which specialize in playing with bh) have to say at least on some level. Afterall we only have your word to go on about you being as good as you claim to be. The false information includes: bh not being able to chip, he can set up unavoidable inferno xxx HOD setups with proper assists, or simply do inferno xxx judgement day iirc.
I’m sorry but you are wrong. Shows how much you know. I do it on Cable all the time, in fact, I learned Doom infinite on dummy Cable without Fast Fly LK.
Sorry. This shit is basic Doom knowledge, just admit you are wrong and move on.
oh shit your 14 too. lol, the next generation of marvel is comming.
ok im not known as a big player here on srk, BUT i will say this, magneto is higher in the tiers than bh, so much that yes if mag gets a hit on her, she’s dead, HOWEVER, bh is not screwed all together, remember the game has assist for a reason. instead of saying a bunch of stuff to say what bh can do to beat mag, and what mag can do to beat bh, im just going to live on this statement, IT’S MARVEL, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. i think this is just another example of why srk sucks, it’s always about putting people down about who, or what they do in a game, rather than try to help them improve in the game. i believe that once you get to a point in marvel where you TRULY see the way the game works, then you can decide if you want to stick to the mid tiers knowing they will have some disadvantages agianst the tops, but if the person knows the game, why put them down, and risk them not playing all together. stop hating, and start helping people out, i have a friend that knows marvel like the back of his hand, me and him have played for over a year, nothing but the tops, and high mids, we both know the way the game works, but he just told me he wants to learn dhalsim, i thought of telling him, WHY?. You are such a good Ironman, and mag player, why play him?. But instead of that, i say go ahead, im not going to explain the way the game works to him cause he knows, if he wants to play dhalsim so he can have fun, and have a challenge then fine. so agian, stop hating, start helping others.
From MagnetoManics profile
Date of Birth: November 26, 1991
Age:14
If this is true, it sure does explain alot.
Wow. In #SRKGD, someone signed in as “MagsScru” and then changed their name to “MagManic”.
That sure is odd huh.
irc: MagnetoMa is now known as MagManiac
i am in no way affilated with him.
EDIT: Sorry MegaManDS, I didn’t know that was you, you both sound retarded and you both logged on IRC near the same time, just seemed odd…
Oh yeah. Nice seeing you again.
what DOES it explain? i know many different people that agree with me. they asked if they wanted to post but i was like “nah this thread is over.”
what you said is kinda like me going
Screen name:ParryPerson
Favorite Game:Third Strike
“sure does explain a lot”
The only difference would be me not posting stupid shit, whereas you have, many, many, many times.
You thought my main game was 3s by looking at my avatar, which isn’t surprising, since you are 14 and stupid, you don’t have to be stupid and 14, but you think you know shit about marvel when you don’t. And if people “agreed” with you, they would have posted, they don’t need you to tell them what to do, so no one (including me) is buying that shit, sorry.
Just admit your a scrub and that you don’t know as much as you think you do and move on.
why would i admit to false bs?
u think a stupid random 14 can beat wigfall? guy has to have some sort of talent
yeah i’ll stay with what i said. your game is 3s. OBVIOUSLY not mvc2. u and i both know ill own u anyday. so bring ur BH, hulk, or megaman (i bet you think he can beat mag too) and see how long u can last vs me.
admit to false BS? You did say for a fact that you HAVE TO FAST FLY the lk in dooms infinite, and you are wrong, I do it all the time on Cable without it, so own up to that, and if you want to go by posts alone, I know alot more about MvC2 than you do, but only because half this forum knows more than you do, you have weak strats, false info, and horrible advice.
And last I check my Marvel teams were Sent/Strider/Doom and IM/Sent/Cable, not “BH, Hulk, or megaman”
and I don’t think a “stupid random 14” can beat wigfall, maybe a smart 14 year old that knew what he was talking about and wasen’t a scrub, but you define the word “scrub”.
I’m out, keep the lies and you will be on your way out.