One question I have about the Hitbox, how long does it take before it registers holding the Left and Right button becoming neutral?
For instance, against a character such as Wolverine who has access to incredibly fast cross-ups, and I’m concerned that there might be a few frames where you’re technically pressing both buttons at the same time, so the Hitbox itself renders you neutral. Is there a margin of error where both inputs are registered before the Hitbox converts it to neutral?
I like how the Foxy-chick-dude busted out some philosophy on the troll-guy. I love me some philosophically fallacious arguments.
Any time left and right are held at the same time you get neutral. Even if it’s just a couple frames, you will be at neutral for those frames. You have to be very conscious of what you’re doing, otherwise you’re going to screw up.
This really isn’t the place to get into a discussion about SOCDs, so I won’t post any further about it here.
Arguing from the designer’s intent is rather weak: If the SOCD behavior in MvC3 is really such a fundamental violation of the designers’ intent, they could readily patch it - like they have with Sentinel’s life, and a slew of other things. (In fact, people have lobbied for that.) Moreover, there’s plenty of stuff in the games which was not originally intended by designers, but which is part of play like the DHC glitch, the Juggernaut glitch, and even normal into special canceling was originally a glitch.
Though there are generally accepted balance oriented bans, any argument about the effects on game play and strategic depth without competitive testing is hardly credible: We’re seeing a lot of Phoenix teams these days. She seems to be reducing the strategic depth - does anyone really think she should have been preemptively banned? Hardly.
The real reason that people consider SOCDs to be cheating is precisely because it violates their notions about what a controller should be able to do, and, in the case of MvC3 provides an advantage.
P.S. Making things personal is a lovely way to get constructive discussion going. Happy trolling all.
Not even going to touch that argument.
At any rate, did someone say/see 720 being done consistently on a hit box? Not to be too nerdy (wait, I’m in a FG forum, that’s impossible haha), if Soul Calibur Ivy’s Calamity Symphony/Summon Suffering can just as easily be done on an HB as it is on a stick, consider me a buyer.
Not entirely true…
I’ve been wanting to get this really badly, being a keyboard player, but the the tourneys here in Austin say they banned hitboxes and the like for the reasons stated above. So I wouldn’t outright say they have never been banned anywhere…
I’m glad you guys went in this anti-cheating direction though. I just hope these guys decide to lift the ban.
Either way, I’m definitely getting one! Thanks!
I see, one more question. For diagonals, does the diagonal itself have to be input or can you glide through it? I guess to explain better, does something like a QCF have to be 3 separate taps on the buttons, or could you glide the inputs where :d: is just the down button, then while still holding down you hit the right button for :df: and then release down while holding the right button to get the final forward command?
The best way to explain it would be to say watch our latest video.
There’s no way I’m changing the minds of people who cheat at video games to win so I’ll drop that too.
I loved that video where you open with X-23 and kill the entire opposing team while giving them, what, 3 or 4 chances to escape across the entire match. That wavedashing at the start was sexy.
Every bug fix costs money in development and testing. They don’t think fixing the SOCD issue is worth the money at this point. That doesn’t mean they’re cool with it and it’s there on purpose.
Just bought AE from the Steam sale. I will be complete with a Hitbox!
You’re lucky dude cuz the sale was a mistake lol.
Oh word?! Achievement unlocked then!
They fixed it right as I was checking out. 
Even though I was the one that posted it, I missed the sale haha. I was thinking of picking this up for PS3 and PC simultaneously but I think I’m going with PS3 for now (to play with my friends) and PC version in a couple of months.
Do you guys have any older models lying around that would be less than $160?
Also, are these compatible with PC?
PS3 version works on PC just fine. So does PS3/360 version, too.
I know what you’re saying (as I use my PS3 TE and SE on my PC all the time), but it doesn’t look like you are replying to what I said? I meant picking up the games for both consoles, not the sticks.
It’s all good though.
If we did have old ones lying around we would either sell them for the same price or cannibalize the parts to put in a new one. And yes, all of our boxes work on PC just fine.
I’m still thinking about buying SSF4 AE for PC so I can emulate the Hit Box button layout on a keyboard.
But anyways I do highly recommend making** MK9 (instant air fireball, combos) and Seismic Hammer Cancel videos.**