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How come the bear trap sometimes doesnāt ground bounce? Sometimes the opponent just rolls right back up.
Sorry if this has been mentioned before but itās a lot of pages to go through.
Akumaās OTG works the very same. Itās dependent on the way the opponentās body is relevant to the ground; if in a certain position, they wonāt ground bounce. I believe itās whenever their body isnāt actually touching the ground (animation wise), meaning the first and second states that the animation leaves them technically not touching the ground, it will groundbounce.
It could just be timed. Akuma and RR both can either hit very early or hit at a specific time later in the animation of the knockdown to ground bounce someone. Otherwise, it will make them roll out.
Iāve been having decent results with Spidey/Chris/Rocket. Spideyās pretty good with log trap, and when people try snap Rocket in, I have Chrisās gunfire+burrow mixups which people donāt seem to expect after facing Spideyās mostly airborne game. For incoming mixups I usually throw out a net or shrapnel trap and just teleport the instant theyāre about to land on it. Doesnāt work on air-dashers of course, though if you toss out all three traps then teleport, chances are theyāll still land on one of them even if they airdash or double jump. Plus you can throw out Spideyās spider sting to flyers, though I canāt really get a combo going afterwards. Iāve also found itās pretty easy to wear out peopleās x factor or power up supers if you just carefully spam H burrow. If they hover over you spamming L, you can just cancel H burrow into the spring super. -Shrug- Really Spidey and Chris are the stars of my team, but Rocket certainly holds his own.
Which is why you c.H before you teleport. Even if they manage to get out of there then, youāre in a very advantageous spot.
Noted, I always seem to forget he has this. I only use crH before his double shot cannon for zoning
Hey whatsup guys. Iāve hit a brick wall with my Rocket Raccoon and Iām moving on from him for the time being, and I figured I share my RR experience so far.
First thing you guys should know, Iām bad at this game lol. Iām a good gamer (competitive FPS roots), but I have terrible execution and I donāt really play enough MvC nowadays to make up for it. That being said I really like Rocket Raccoon and I try to play at my local weekly whenever I can. I really like MvC3 when itās not making me rage lol.
When I saw Rocket Raccoonās trailer I instantly decided I was going to main him. I tried building a team around him but unfortunately, the team I developed ended up being fatally flawed. My team is Trish/RR/Ammy. A friend of mine told me that a sign of a good team is the ability to one-touch a character at the start of the mach, and my plan was to use Trishās meaty Round Harvest to set up RRās unblockable to effectively one-touch. Unfortunately, RR has no answer to raw tags in this situation, because Round Harvest carries airborne targets too high for RR to confirm off of. The more I play at my weekly and the more I play online, the more I realize how badly my team is lacking damage output (aside from my anchor Ammy who I have 110% confidence in). Thereās also another RR player at my weekly who plays Joe/RR/Arthur who takes way more advantage of RR than I do. Iāve decided to drop the team, and RR as a result, at least for now =/
At the moment, I am following my friendās advice and picking up Doom to make team building easier. āPick Doom. Any position. Any Assist.ā lol I plan on changing up my Vanilla team of Ammy/Sent/Dorm to Dorm/Doom/Ammy. I feel like the team will have great synergy and give me something cheap to exploit, something I havenāt been able to experience yet in Ultimate lol. I feel the team will also make Ammy even more of an asset to my team, and all of my friends agree that she is my best character by far and I should take advantage of it.
Once Iām satisfied with learning Doom, I want to go back to RR and find a way to make him work. At the last few Runbacks, there was a Halo player getting really far with Zero/RR/Ammy and it looks really fun. Since thatās my team with Zero instead of Trish and Iām also a Halo player, I definitely want to start there. I also eventually want to build a Trish team because I think Trish is really fun and I donāt want to drop her, I just wish I could use her with RR because they are so much fun to use together =(
So yeah guys, another day-1 RR main is dropping RR, but only for a little while. Iām going to go explore some other characters and then return to my RR/Ammy combo strong and free from the frustrations that are holding me back now.
Hopefully I can find the point character for my critters that I am seriously lacking. If anyone has ay recommendations feel free to share. And thanks for reading this noobās wall of text if anyone does lol. This forum isnāt very active, but hopefully at least someone appreciates my little story, and I hope all the RR players are still going strong because Rocket Raccoon is ****ing awesome and so is anyone who mains him.
What, the Trish raw tag stuff sounds perfect for him because theyāre set in a situation that is basically death (not really but you see the punishment Iām going for) if they land, which they have to. RR isnāt gonna do any damage even if he lands something after Trish round harvest. Damage isnāt his job. He picks and eats at them and lets others do that for him.
But your team overall having low damageā¦not sure. imo thatās okay, but hey.
Hmm. All the guys at my weekly just raw tag when I do the Round Harvest and I get nothing for it aside from them eating the Round Harvest damage. Their character that I hit in the first place regains red life, I have less meter than them, and now theyāre way up in the air where I canāt touch them with RR and they have time to think before they have to land, depending on the character. Itās kinda come to a point where doing it puts me at a disadvantage and gives them momentum. Thereās probably something I can do about it aside from call Low Voltage and hope I get a crossup but usually I just end up getting hit by something shortly after lol.
I used to be able to one touch most characters in the corner before everyone caught on. All it takes is a basic combo from Trish and a standard corner combo from RR, but now I canāt land any hits with RR because people raw tag. People online often eat it though lol.
Thanks though, Iāll try to give it some thought.
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I feel I get more mileage out of Cold Star nowadays than I do Round Harvest.
Cold Star is a dumb ass assist so that makes sense. 
Everything about Ammy is awesome. Just be happy they didnāt keep the horizontal version of it from the beta lol.
Never have I ever fought against you at TRB, also, never have I ever seen anyone rawtag vs. round harvest lol. That just sounds like not a good idea to me.
But dropping RR for a bit is not a bad idea. I said the same thing when I saw him in the reveal trailer. Realized how ass I was at the game, and I moved away from him to the Avengers team. Now heās been back on my teams and heās on every single one of my teams. Itās fine to move away from him because heās a character that needs a good understanding of the game to make work. Iām not saying Iām the best RR, but Iām getting blown up less, and having people at TRB / UCI rage at me for using him :P.
Oh no no sorry, I donāt go to TRB, I live in New Jersey and I go to The Nerd Palace lol. I mentioned TBR because someone I saw do well on stream uses Ammy and RR and is a Halo player (was that you?). I use Ammy and RR as well and Iām also a Halo player so I felt like I should try out his team because it looked fun but also out of loyalty lol.
Iām no stranger to having to deal with low tier characters, itās just that I havenāt been playing enough at all lately to make RR work, especially when my team isnāt working the way I think it needs to. No way Iām dropping him for good though.
About Round Harvest thoughā¦ what would you guys do as RR to deal with someone being that high up in the air after the raw tag? Raw tagging vs RR seems to be the best thing to do. Te only thing I can think of is Strider assist, but thereās no way I could ever get good with Strider lol.
If they raw tag and eat the scythe they take a lot of unscaled damage and from there you can do anything you want at all. Set up tons of traps and tag in another character or just keep picking at them for more bar. If they donāt you get an unblockable into the RR raw tag out setup, another Trish Round Harvest, theyāre dead.
Hmm I havenāt tried setting up traps and tagging in another characterā¦ I may try that. Thanks.
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Oil Bomb, st.h xx some kinda trap, tag back into Trish seems good.
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So I just won a match by cr.hāing Doom in the face from full screen during the startup of his plasma beam animation, and during the slowdown it looked like Doom put his hands up and RR shot him in the head haha.
I use Joe / RR / Cap. I never made it on stream so youāll never see me. I made it out of my pool in Evo though with this team.
You found the way to take out sentinel too. Sent canāt do shit against c.H. Just canāt be too predictable and run the fk away w/ rocketskates if he gets close. c.H if he tries to HSF, just cancel it into H burrow. Headshot Sent all day.
Oh yeah yeah definitely, I just thought it looked really funny when doom got shot in the face in slow motion with his hands up lol.
c.H xx log trap/skates/teleport/trap (usually shrapnel or boulder) is anti-anyone with a huge body. Just be careful around Hulk and hyper sent force.
Someone clue me in on his solo unblockable. Is it Boulder Trap + low?
yes, exactly that. Need to set it up though.